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EricH 13-01-2011 15:30

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Sean, to not make 6 logos, you only have to lose one piece. Your Feeders only have 3 logos apiece, and you only have two Feeders. 6 Logos. I swipe a miss and put it in my zone, and suddenly you can't make 6 without taking any of mine. I swipe more than that, and you have a much harder time, because now you have to take those pieces away from me--and if I'm smart, I keep those in reserve if I can.

Sean Raia 13-01-2011 15:41

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 999195)
Sean, to not make 6 logos, you only have to lose one piece. Your Feeders only have 3 logos apiece, and you only have two Feeders. 6 Logos. I swipe a miss and put it in my zone, and suddenly you can't make 6 without taking any of mine. I swipe more than that, and you have a much harder time, because now you have to take those pieces away from me--and if I'm smart, I keep those in reserve if I can.

Ahh, i had my numbers wrong on the pieces that the feeders were given.

Alpha Beta 13-01-2011 16:15

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 999156)
Because it's not just a 3-point penalty. Messing with a robot deploying a minibot, especially if the deploying robot is contacting the base, is an automatic red card if it happens during the end game.

You are absolutely correct that interfering with a robot that is contacting the tower during the end game would be a poor choice. That would be the worst way to interpret the "smart penalty" concept. No one wants any part of a red card. Now defending the robot from getting to the tower even if it means going into the opponent’s lane to do it and eat the -3 is still an option. I expect to see hard defense in the end game. If I can delay a superior mini-bot with a penalty just enough to come in 2nd while my partner comes in first that is a 7 point swing, even more if I can delay him enough to not reach the top. Can you do that without drawing a red-card? Up until <G23> and <G25> comes into play.

EricH 13-01-2011 16:25

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Originally Posted by Alpha Beta (Post 999242)
You are absolutely correct that interfering with a robot that is contacting the tower during the end game would be a poor choice. That would be the worst way to interpret the "smart penalty" concept. No one wants any part of a red card. Now defending the robot from getting to the tower even if it means going into the opponent’s lane to do it and eat the -3 is still an option. I expect to see hard defense in the end game. If I can delay a superior mini-bot with a penalty just enough to come in 2nd while my partner comes in first that is a 7 point swing, even more if I can delay him enough to not reach the top. Can you do that without drawing a red-card? Up until <G23> and <G25> comes into play.

If they touch the tower at any point during the end game, it's an automatic 3-point penalty in addition to any lane penalty. If the refs deem that you are interfering with deployment (i.e., they're starting to swing a deployment arm, and you hit them or shove them, even if contact was already begun), it's an automatic red card.

Up until the endgame, it's a viable strategy. But if you're doing that, I'll go do the same thing to one of your partners, or make a logo.

I also have another couple of tricks that could get me first in the minibot race despite your defense. And trust me, they'll be used by somebody. Smoke screens aren't always smoke...sometimes they're mirrors.

flyingcrayons 13-01-2011 16:55

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i cant wait to see if your prediction is correct!

Lil' Lavery 13-01-2011 17:31

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Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik (Post 999077)
'07 was a rather lot easier than '11, though. Here's the rundown of what makes hanging lots harder this year:
  1. You have to hang 12 tubes for this challenge, not 10.
[snip]

It's actually 18 tubes, not 12. And beyond that, hanging 18 tubes (filling up all your scoring pegs) isn't the same as making 6 logos, either.

Kims Robot 13-01-2011 17:42

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Originally Posted by Sean Raia (Post 999108)
Who is Car Nack?
From what i've gathered, he makes one of these predictions each year?

A little browsing through the Car Nack Forum and you will figure it out!

Chris is me 25-06-2011 14:47

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Car Knack didn't really get this one head on...

Congrats 148, 1503, 1538.

NickE 25-06-2011 15:11

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1066788)
Car Knack didn't really get this one head on...

Congrats 148, 1503, 1538.

Also done by 195, 254, 469 in Galileo Q-56.

Bjenks548 25-06-2011 21:22

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Also done yesterday at Marc with 67, 245, and 469 with 25 seconds to spare. Q-1

Koko Ed 25-06-2011 21:26

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Originally Posted by Bjenks548 (Post 1066807)
Also done yesterday at Marc with 67, 245, and 469 with 25 seconds to spare. Q-1

and again this morning with 67, 2337 and a third team I am unable to recall.

Adam Freeman 25-06-2011 23:05

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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1066808)
and again this morning with 67, 2337 and a third team I am unable to recall.

51.

Very fun to be a part of both alliances.


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