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baroneje 13-01-2011 20:40

Mini-bot Hinges
 
Are the mini-bots allowed to use hinges like door hinges, etc. to use as doors that close up around the pole?

EricH 13-01-2011 20:52

Re: Mini-bot Hinges
 
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Originally Posted by baroneje (Post 999490)
Are the mini-bots allowed to use hinges like door hinges, etc. to use as doors that close up around the pole?

Not if they aren't in <R92>, and I don't see "hinges" in there.

However, using aluminum, hardware, and maybe some surgical tubing or something, I'm sure you could rig up some form of hinge substitute.

baroneje 14-01-2011 23:48

Re: Mini-bot Hinges
 
Are you allowed to mill them out of aluminum since the rules allow the use of sheet aluminum?

DonRotolo 14-01-2011 23:48

Re: Mini-bot Hinges
 
I don't see why not.

StevenB 15-01-2011 11:37

Re: Mini-bot Hinges
 
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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 999505)
Not if they aren't in <R92>, and I don't see "hinges" in there.

As you mentioned, <R92> part S allows "Mechanical hardware (i.e. screws, bolts, etc). Pending clarification in the Q&A, I wouldn't completely rule out hinges as hardware. The hardware store calls them hardware, and you find them stocked pretty close to the screws and bolts.
See this thread for more discussion.

EricH 15-01-2011 12:49

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Originally Posted by StevenB (Post 1000648)
As you mentioned, <R92> part S allows "Mechanical hardware (i.e. screws, bolts, etc). Pending clarification in the Q&A, I wouldn't completely rule out hinges as hardware. The hardware store calls them hardware, and you find them stocked pretty close to the screws and bolts.
See this thread for more discussion.

But being close is not being equal. 5 is close to 4...

The specific examples in the rule tend to point towards fasteners, not springs and hinges (motion parts, we could call them).

J.Warsoff 17-01-2011 21:21

Re: Mini-bot Hinges
 
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Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1000441)
I don't see why not.

yea i dont see why not either, Don. btw, i might want to use some kind of hinge in the prototype ive been working on, so hopefully i can get that going. i may need some help though

artdutra04 17-01-2011 21:32

Re: Mini-bot Hinges
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by baroneje (Post 999490)
Are the mini-bots allowed to use hinges like door hinges, etc. to use as doors that close up around the pole?

As long as it's made out of allowable parts, then yes.

Check out McMaster part #1635A24. It's a 100% polycarbonate hinge, and thus should be legal.

BJT 18-01-2011 22:02

Re: Mini-bot Hinges
 
Update#3 seems to rule out hinges on the minibot. you could make one, but purchasing a pre-made hinge, regardless of material, seems to be out. right?

awesomeguy1235 18-01-2011 22:25

Re: Mini-bot Hinges
 
well, if it is listed in the parts you are allowed to use, then you can, but if it is not, then just forget it, my team thought of arms that used pulleys and surgical tubing to clamp it shut

PAR_WIG1350 18-01-2011 22:48

Re: Mini-bot Hinges
 
Update #3 still doesn't rule out the polycarbonate hinge. I'd Q&A that one if I were you.

Chris is me 18-01-2011 22:49

Re: Mini-bot Hinges
 
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Originally Posted by BJT (Post 1003172)
Update#3 seems to rule out hinges on the minibot. you could make one, but purchasing a pre-made hinge, regardless of material, seems to be out. right?

What of Team Update 3 makes purchasing premade parts illegal?

Jimmy the Kidd 18-01-2011 23:02

Re: Mini-bot Hinges
 
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Originally Posted by BJT (Post 1003172)
Update#3 seems to rule out hinges on the minibot. you could make one, but purchasing a pre-made hinge, regardless of material, seems to be out. right?

A couple of the posters here and I seem to have the same opinion. You should be able to only MAKE hinges. Buying them is against the rules.

EricH 18-01-2011 23:03

Re: Mini-bot Hinges
 
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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1003210)
What of Team Update 3 makes purchasing premade parts illegal?

If they aren't Tetrix, and they aren't specifically listed (which the parts in question--hinges--are not), then you either have to make your own or go without. Team Update 3 removed all ambiguity on the "hardware" point by changing "hardware" to "fasteners".

Chris is me 18-01-2011 23:14

Re: Mini-bot Hinges
 
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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1003226)
If they aren't Tetrix, and they aren't specifically listed (which the parts in question--hinges--are not), then you either have to make your own or go without. Team Update 3 removed all ambiguity on the "hardware" point by changing "hardware" to "fasteners".

But the hinges are made exclusively of materials found on the list of allowed parts. Why is it suddenly required that you hand make them if they are literally just shaped versions of what is allowed?


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