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Erik Huang

14-01-2011 09:20

Autonomous Scoring

Although the chances are slim, would you be allowed to pick up the opponent's dropped ubertubes and score them on your wall?

Zuelu562

14-01-2011 09:25

Re: Autonomous Scoring

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<G11> ROBOTS may not break the plane of the CENTER LINE

If that is the case, and your adversary launches the ubertube across the field, then yes, it is possible, but either something Un-"Graciously Proffesional" is going on, or some magically amazing set of events unfolded.

This event would also require that your robot cannot only FIND ubertubes on the ground, but also pick it up and take it to the peg in whatever amount of time is left.

INCREDIBLY Unlikely, but plausible.

notmattlythgoe

14-01-2011 09:33

Re: Autonomous Scoring

I would imagine that you could do that with your own team's dropped tubes though.

IndySam

14-01-2011 09:39

Re: Autonomous Scoring

It may not happen until the Championship but there will be teams that will score a ubertube go back and pick up the alliance partners unused tube and score it also.

mwtidd

14-01-2011 10:10

Re: Autonomous Scoring

This is my second goal for autonomous. Yes it is legal and possible. Your robots do not need to start in their respective lanes, so potentially you could have two robots right next to each other. Also the ubertube must only be in contact with your partner so after capping your you could go back and grab it. I think its possible to achieve it with a compass, gyro and rangefinder, and be fairly accurate. If you want better than about 25% with the second cap you will have to use the camera.

Our autonomous robots typically use a mixture of "blind movements" (no sensors)" dead reckoning"(anything but the camera) and the camera. If you have the camera you can do blind movements. if not stick to using feedback from the sensors. If you want any more info just ask :)

mwtidd

14-01-2011 10:12

Re: Autonomous Scoring

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Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 999811)

It may not happen until the Championship but there will be teams that will score a ubertube go back and pick up the alliance partners unused tube and score it also.

Actually in 07 only one team achieved going back and picking up another one, also I don't know if the contact rule was in place. It was a different control system in 07 and they only accomplished this at an offseason invitational.

I believe it could happen, whether or not it will depends more on the robot designs than the programming.

GaryVoshol

14-01-2011 11:27

Re: Autonomous Scoring

The contact rule was there:

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Originally Posted by 2007 Rules

<G04> KEEPER locations - Each ROBOT may start the match in POSSESSION of one KEEPER. The KEEPER does NOT need to be contained within the ROBOT'S starting volume, however it must be in contact with the ROBOT and be entirely within the HOME ZONE. The head referee will require that KEEPERS that do not meet these criteria be removed from the game. It is the responsibility of the head referee to verify that this rule is satisfied prior to the start of the match.

Erik Huang

14-01-2011 18:49

Re: Autonomous Scoring

And what happens to the ubertube after autonomous? Is it taken out of play?

mwtidd

14-01-2011 19:01

Re: Autonomous Scoring

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Originally Posted by Erik Huang (Post 1000180)

And what happens to the ubertube after autonomous? Is it taken out of play?

It is not playable, whether or not it is removed I am not sure

Zoughtbaj

14-01-2011 19:55

Re: Autonomous Scoring

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3.1.4 TELEOPERATED PERIOD

<G16> UBERTUBES may not be HUNG. Violation: PENALTY

bluebox<G16> disallows an unplaced UBERTUBE to be hung, a knocked-off UBERTUBE to be rehung, or movement of an UBERTUBE to a different PEG.

Based on this rule, I don't think it will be removed.

Frenchie461

15-01-2011 09:43

Re: Autonomous Scoring

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Originally Posted by Erik Huang (Post 999793)

Although the chances are slim, would you be allowed to pick up the opponent's dropped ubertubes and score them on your wall?

nope, <G11> no crossing the center line, sorry, you lose.

mwtidd

15-01-2011 13:50

Re: Autonomous Scoring

Sorry, I had misread the question. The only tube you could go and grab is an alliance member's tube.

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