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Cyberphil 14-01-2011 12:23

Re: Car Nack Predicts 2011-2
 
Hmm. Very interesting prediction. As I am not very familiar with Car Nack, I have read all of his predictions, and they are almost all correct.

I would have to agree with his prediction, even if there only a few where it does happen.

Chris is me 14-01-2011 12:33

Re: Car Nack Predicts 2011-2
 
I'll dissent from popular opinion for a second though. Is deploying a host bot hard?

My current plan is to velcro it to an actuated stick.

EricH 14-01-2011 12:53

Re: Car Nack Predicts 2011-2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberphil (Post 999943)
Hmm. Very interesting prediction. As I am not very familiar with Car Nack, I have read all of his predictions, and they are almost all correct.

I've gotta disagree on that, unfortunately. I've gone through and checked all the predictions I could find, since 2004, and overall (counting general and specific separately), Car Nack is 17 for 29, with two that I couldn't find a result for. Typically, if a single prediction is both general and has a quantity (specific), the general is off but the quantity is on.

In other words, Car Nack has made 29 separate predictions, and he's been right 17 times. He's been better recently, though, getting better than 60% average in the last 3 years.

Chris: How are you going to deploy a 120+ pound electro-mechanical device with a velcro-covered actuated stick? ;)

JesseK 14-01-2011 13:26

Re: Car Nack Predicts 2011-2
 
Prototype that Chris (heh, like I need to tell you that); I think you'll find that there's a difficulty in putting enough velcro on the MINIBOT so it is stable during the match, yet sparse enough that it easily detached from the HOSTBOT without slowing it down during deployment.

Koko Ed 14-01-2011 14:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuelu562 (Post 999934)
The HOSTBOT is the main FRC Legal Robot as defined in the Robot Manual Section 4. The MINIBOT is the separate entity that is inspected separately. Combined, the MINIBOT and the HOSTBOT become the ROBOT.

Ah, I see.
Well I wonder how effective a loaner minibot would be without a deployment system to get it to the pole?

Jared Russell 14-01-2011 14:34

Re: Car Nack Predicts 2011-2
 
<R11> says the MINIBOT does not count towards the robot's starting volume - you could probably make a loaner minibot that deploys itself when it hits the tower base...

GaryVoshol 14-01-2011 14:36

Re: Car Nack Predicts 2011-2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared341 (Post 1000029)
<R11> says the MINIBOT does not count towards the robot's starting volume - you could probably make a loaner minibot that deploys itself when it hits the tower base...

The MINIBOT is exempt from weight and size constraints in <R11>. But is it exempt from <R14>?

Jared Russell 14-01-2011 15:09

Re: Car Nack Predicts 2011-2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 1000031)
The MINIBOT is exempt from weight and size constraints in <R11>. But is it exempt from <R14>?

Would be a great question for Q&A.

JesseK 14-01-2011 15:14

Re: Car Nack Predicts 2011-2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared341 (Post 1000029)
<R11> says the MINIBOT does not count towards the robot's starting volume - you could probably make a loaner minibot that deploys itself when it hits the tower base...

I don't know that I would want my team's MINIBOT sticking outside the frame perimeter of another team's HOSTBOT before the endgame, unless all three robots on the opposing alliance were dead in the water, heh.

pfreivald 20-01-2011 22:13

Re: Car Nack Predicts 2011-2
 
I'll bet a lot of teams are in our boat: As nice as it would be to win another cooperitition trophy, devoting the cash toward it (not to mention the time) is prohibitive...

...especially considering that (pfreivald predicts) all truly effective MINIBOT designs will have effective HOSTBOT designs that integrate with them, and are not general deployment mechanisms...

IKE 10-03-2011 14:30

Re: Car Nack Predicts 2011-2
 
So at least 1 Car Nack prediction is true. Kettering did not have a 4 minibot deployment match.


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