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J.Warsoff 17-01-2011 14:53

the segway just got a whole lot cooler
 
I was at the New York International Auto Show when this was unveiled. I saw it first hand...
http://www.segway.com/puma/

this is so freakin cool

JesseK 17-01-2011 14:59

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Leave it to Mr. Kamen to squish the SMART car concept even smaller. Looks pretty awesome for urban environments. There would need to be a cultural adjustment before they can be used though; drivers are already fairly complacent about bikers on the road. It seems like anything that's small and slower than a 'normal' car is likely to get run off the road.

Ian Curtis 17-01-2011 15:16

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Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 1002069)
Leave it to Mr. Kamen to squish the SMART car concept even smaller. Looks pretty awesome for urban environments. There would need to be a cultural adjustment before they can be used though; drivers are already fairly complacent about bikers on the road. It seems like anything that's small and slower than a 'normal' car is likely to get run off the road.

Go-Karts enter the 21st century! :ahh:

That would be sooo much fun. Easy to get sued too probably. :rolleyes:

Chris is me 17-01-2011 15:32

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I could have sworn this was unveiled 1-2 years ago...

RoboDesigners 17-01-2011 15:33

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1002102)
I could have sworn this was unveiled 1-2 years ago...

I thought so, too... :confused:

JamesBrown 17-01-2011 15:47

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Originally Posted by RoboDesigners (Post 1002104)
I thought so, too... :confused:

I believe it was announced in April of 2009.

gblake 17-01-2011 16:27

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That thing looks slightly warmer than a bicycle and just about as crashworthy.

You are unlikely to get me into vehicle lanes in one. The roads around me are littered with debris from busted head/taillights, bumpers and grills. I see an accident aftermath at least once a week.

I can imagine the stain that would be created if a current "real" car drove over the top of two people in one of these.

Incrementally introducing these doesn't sound like a viable strategy.

Blake

pfreivald 17-01-2011 17:06

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*sigh*

As much as I respect Dean as an inventor and as incredibly cool as his inventions are, it seems to me that the Segway and this mini-car suffer from the same problem: they solve a problem that doesn't exist.

It must be significantly better than legs, affordable, not subject to massive liability issues wrt transportation safety, etc...

OR significantly better than a car, affordable, not subject to massive liability issues wrt transportation safety, etc...

And as the Segway replaces legs in a rather cool but non-cost-effective way, this seems to replace legs + umbrella + backpack in a rather cool non-cost-effective way.

J.Warsoff 17-01-2011 23:31

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yes i know it was unveiled in 2009. i was there when it was unveiled. but the thing is, it is still in developement, because of it's complexity. when i was at the unveiling, they showed an animation that depicted special sidewalks/roads that were adjacent to the streets that would be made specifically for the PUMA. also, compared to the segway and other similar vehicles, this is quite fast: top speed of 35 mph. plus you can have 2 passengers


Chris is me 17-01-2011 23:38

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Originally Posted by pfreivald (Post 1002187)
As much as I respect Dean as an inventor and as incredibly cool as his inventions are, it seems to me that the Segway and this mini-car suffer from the same problem: they solve a problem that doesn't exist.

The problem very much exists in urban areas - when you want to be able to travel greater than 1 mile but less than 10 miles where roads and sidewalks are too congested to make a car practical, not to mention the environmental impact of a car.

Tytus Gerrish 17-01-2011 23:39

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20k it's not that impressive for an electric vehicle

pfreivald 18-01-2011 09:27

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1002518)
The problem very much exists in urban areas - when you want to be able to travel greater than 1 mile but less than 10 miles where roads and sidewalks are too congested to make a car practical, not to mention the environmental impact of a car.

Is this designed to go on the **road**? :eek:

Seems like a serious safety hazard to me.

Perhaps if cities were redesigned to accomodate personal transport vehicles such as these, they might be a viable alternative... But for now and the forseeable future, we're stuck with either sidewalks or the road.

gblake 18-01-2011 10:34

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Originally Posted by Aerosound (Post 1002510)
... they showed an animation that depicted special sidewalks/roads that were adjacent to the streets that would be made specifically for the PUMA. ...

Oh! Well, that's a different story - I can see that happening quickly, cheaply and widely - ;)

J.Warsoff 18-01-2011 12:11

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Originally Posted by Tytus Gerrish (Post 1002519)
20k it's not that impressive for an electric vehicle

hey its faster than walking

plus its not meant for going really fast. its basically a multi passanger, slightly faster, longer lasting, and concept version of a modified segway using the same technology

J.Warsoff 18-01-2011 12:12

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Originally Posted by pfreivald (Post 1002665)
Is this designed to go on the **road**? :eek:

Seems like a serious safety hazard to me.

Perhaps if cities were redesigned to accomodate personal transport vehicles such as these, they might be a viable alternative... But for now and the forseeable future, we're stuck with either sidewalks or the road.

well as i said before, special roads adjacent to the sidewalks would be made for this vehicle

Tytus Gerrish 18-01-2011 12:17

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Originally Posted by Aerosound (Post 1002756)
hey its faster than walking

plus its not meant for going really fast. its basically a multi passanger, slightly faster, longer lasting, and concept version of a modified segway using the same technology

my bicycle is faster, can take me farther, it dosen't need a special sidewalk and i charge it by eating.

J.Warsoff 18-01-2011 12:39

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nevertheless, its still pretty cool

pfreivald 18-01-2011 12:45

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Originally Posted by Aerosound (Post 1002778)
nevertheless, its still pretty cool

It's very neat, it's just a solution in search of a problem.

BugByte 18-01-2011 13:00

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I would love to use that but I'm not sure where... :confused: I'm also wondering where we draw the line for needing a drivers license.

Lil' Lavery 18-01-2011 13:36

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1002518)
The problem very much exists in urban areas - when you want to be able to travel greater than 1 mile but less than 10 miles where roads and sidewalks are too congested to make a car practical, not to mention the environmental impact of a car.

Ummmm, what?
I routinely walk more than a mile in an urban setting without any issue, and when I need to go substantially further than that I take public transit with ease. The only things this would really aid me in is bringing around groceries (anything much larger than that it wouldn't be able to fit) and travelling late at night (when public transit options aren't as frequent).

I fail to see this "problem."

Tytus Gerrish 18-01-2011 14:08

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if i weigned >300LBS this looks great to me because i can fit my butt in it and it gets me arround with no effort.

Tobot 25-01-2011 13:37

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1002827)
...I routinely walk more than a mile in an urban setting without any issue, and when I need to go substantially further than that I take public transit with ease...
I fail to see this "problem."

Agreed. Unfortunately "expenditure of personal effort" eventually trumps all other considerations in transportation. Otherwise, the bicycle is THE solution.

But compared to the segway, an electric bicycle is dominant on every axis I can think of including personal effort. I've never understood it.

J.Warsoff 25-01-2011 13:53

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hey guys, i don't see it as a totally nessacary thing either. i still think it's pretty cool. heck, I even got to sit in it at the unveiling.

JamesBrown 25-01-2011 14:15

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Originally Posted by Tytus Gerrish (Post 1002760)
my bicycle is faster, can take me farther, it dosen't need a special sidewalk and i charge it by eating.

Not that it really helps the case for the vehicle but it would be an impressive feat to paintain 35 mph for 20km on a bike.

Tytus Gerrish 25-01-2011 14:52

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Originally Posted by JamesBrown (Post 1008076)
Not that it really helps the case for the vehicle but it would be an impressive feat to paintain 35 mph for 20km on a bike.

your right thats rediclous. I can average about 23mph on flat roads with no wind.

also my bike only cost $400

vigkvagkv2 07-02-2011 20:02

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Looks fun as heck beyond all reason.

Hard to implement into the real world currently.


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