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bobosalad 19-01-2011 17:57

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MattC9 19-01-2011 18:00

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Nice!!! but the real question did it work well? Because We had a similar idea to it.

gvarndell 19-01-2011 20:15

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For concrete jersey barriers?

BJC 19-01-2011 21:41

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I would be carful with that getting ripped off your robot during collection.
When building a ground-picker-upper ask yourself would this break if a robot hit it square on going 10fps?

bobosalad 19-01-2011 23:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MattC9 (Post 1003740)
Nice!!! but the real question did it work well? Because We had a similar idea to it.

at this point the grabber is not completed. it needs more bands and they will be tighter. nevertheless, it grabs, and almost turns the tubes. fine tuning will be done. Effective? Yes i think so.

114Klaatu0x72 20-01-2011 01:00

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Is that some type of urethane tubing you are using? If so, how did you weld/join yours together, they look nice and neat.

techtiger1 20-01-2011 13:53

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The orange cord is called polycord you can order it from Mcmaster-carr, it is joined by heating the material up, joining it, then letting it mold together and cool. Works really good for a variety of FRC and other applications.

Sean Raia 20-01-2011 14:00

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This looks really HEAVY. Whats it weigh in at?

Gabe Guidarelli 20-01-2011 14:06

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I agree with sean it looks really heavy ,but if you are able to lighten it i think it will be very useful for manipulating the tube.

PAR_WIG1350 20-01-2011 14:18

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Originally Posted by Sean Raia (Post 1004335)
This looks really HEAVY. Whats it weigh in at?

I agree also, It seems that straight roller supports mounted nearer to the axles of the inboard pulleys would make it much lighter.

JamesCH95 20-01-2011 14:43

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If you mounted the larger pulleys concentrically with the pivot for the corresponding 'finger' the belts would maintain tension as the grabber opens and closes.

bobosalad 20-01-2011 19:57

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It weighs in less than 5 lbs and the reason for the offset of the drive pulleys is so we can tension it. The arms wont move during the game.

jblay 21-01-2011 13:59

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Originally Posted by techtiger1 (Post 1004332)
The orange cord is called polycord you can order it from Mcmaster-carr, it is joined by heating the material up, joining it, then letting it mold together and cool. Works really good for a variety of FRC and other applications.

You'll find it on mcmaster-carr under urethane belting. Its very useful for not only conveyors but also it is a lightweight way to power something. I have seen teams use it for their drivetrain. I wouldnt recommend that though because a lot of issues can prop up with that.

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Originally Posted by 114Klaatu0x72 (Post 1004065)
how did you weld/join yours together, they look nice and neat.

The way we mold it, not the team whose photo this is, together is we took a piece of aluminum block. drilled through the center of it with a bit as big as the diameter of the polycord. then we sliced the block in half at the point where it was drilled through. then we melt the polycord and put it in between the 2 pieces you have left and you get a nice and strong connection.

Ian Curtis 21-01-2011 14:28

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Originally Posted by jblay (Post 1005055)
You'll find it on mcmaster-carr under urethane belting. Its very useful for not only conveyors but also it is a lightweight way to power something. I have seen teams use it for their drivetrain. I wouldnt recommend that though because a lot of issues can prop up with that.

Do you have a picture of this? I would love to see it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jblay (Post 1005055)
The way we mold it, not the team whose photo this is, together is we took a piece of aluminum block. drilled through the center of it with a bit as big as the diameter of the polycord. then we sliced the block in half at the point where it was drilled through. then we melt the polycord and put it in between the 2 pieces you have left and you get a nice and strong connection.

We had great success with the Art Dutra Method.

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Originally Posted by artdutra04
Just cut the cord 10% shorter than the actual distance necessary, melt the ends with the lighter, stick them together (use the inside of aluminum angle to keep them lined up), and wait five minutes. Now use a razor and trim off all the globs of melted cord around the joint so it is smooth and wait another half hour to let it cure and achieve full strength.

We didn't wait half an hour (maybe 5 minutes) and never had one break. Also 10% shorter than the run is too short, they run just fine (and it doesn't require super human strength to get them on) at 3-5% shorter than the run.

This entire thread is very helpful when it comes to polycord.

pandamonium 21-01-2011 14:32

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I think the concept is good but it could be cleaned up a bit...
is this just a prototype?

HINT: the tube surface is very different than in 07 and I believe that wheels work better than belts. Also in a collision belts may come loose easier than wheels...


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