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My roommate is a Canadindianian.

Great guy.

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This is me conveying disgust:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

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So how exactly does Canada relate to Update #4? Or was this another thread hijack?

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I know that Canadians represented about 6% of teams in attendance at 2010 CMP. I counted them when I was making my post about that originally.

Based on Mark's numbers, that means roughly twice as many Canadian teams go to CMP than would be a fair representation. Furthermore, Canada has 2 regionals of its own, and I believe there is one in the works out on the west coast (Vancouver-area) to be started in the next few seasons. For a market share of 3% to be controlling 4.16% of the regional events (counted from the list on frclinks.com, subtracting CMP divisions, and MI districts), we're doing alright.

Also, of the teams that have won 3 regionals in the same year, fully 50% of the times this has happened, it was a Canadian team, and a Canadian team holds both the record for being the only team in FRC to do this twice, and the only 3peat regional winner to also win Championship in the same year:

51 (ex 47/65) (1998)
359 (2010)
1024 (2008)
1114 (2006, 2008, 2010)
1503 (2006)

NB: Edited for mistakes.

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Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 1007908)

So how exactly does Canada relate to Update #4? Or was this another thread hijack?

It was tangentially related to FIRST's poor decision making, and people ran with it.

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Originally Posted by 1075guy (Post 1007921)

I know that Canadians represented about 6% of teams in attendance at 2010 CMP. I counted them when I was making my post about that originally.

Based on Mark's numbers, that means roughly twice as many Canadian teams go to CMP than would be a fair representation. Furthermore, Canada has 2 regionals of its own, and I believe there is one in the works out on the west coast (Vancouver-area) to be started in the next few seasons. For a market share of 3% to be controlling 4.16% of the regional events (counted from the list on frclinks.com, subtracting CMP divisions, and MI districts), we're doing alright.

Also, of the teams that have won 3 regionals in the same year, fully 50% of the times this has happened, it was a Canadian team, and a Canadian team holds both the record for being the only team in FRC to do this twice, and the only 3peat regional winner to also win Championship in the same year:

51 (ex 47/65) (1998)
1024 (2008)
1114 (2006, 2008)
1124 (2008)
1503 (2006)

I don't think anyone is saying your minority isn't a great part of FIRST. Just that it is still vastly a minority.

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Originally Posted by 1075guy (Post 1007921)

1124 (2008)

Just nitpicky: They entered one regional in 2008.

359 and 1114 each won three regionals in 2010.

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Originally Posted by 1075guy (Post 1007921)

I know that Canadians represented about 6% of teams in attendance at 2010 CMP. I counted them when I was making my post about that originally.

Based on Mark's numbers, that means roughly twice as many Canadian teams go to CMP than would be a fair representation. Furthermore, Canada has 2 regionals of its own, and I believe there is one in the works out on the west coast (Vancouver-area) to be started in the next few seasons. For a market share of 3% to be controlling 4.16% of the regional events (counted from the list on frclinks.com, subtracting CMP divisions, and MI districts), we're doing alright.

Also, of the teams that have won 3 regionals in the same year, fully 50% of the times this has happened, it was a Canadian team, and a Canadian team holds both the record for being the only team in FRC to do this twice, and the only 3peat regional winner to also win Championship in the same year:

51 (ex 47/65) (1998)
1024 (2008)
1114 (2006, 2008)
1124 (2008)
1503 (2006)

67 in 2009? 3 District wins.. State Championship and Championship?
217 in 2009? 2 Districts wins.. State Championship and finalist at the championships (i believe they might have played somewhere else also)? (IE-if it wasnt for mechincal failure in the last match at GLR in 2008, they would have also won three regionals and CMP.

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From what I've seen, MI teams have been excluded from stats like that, since the dawn of the District model, as it gives them an unfair advantage (they get to play more events for less money than the rest of us, and each MI District has fewer competing teams than most regionals.)

This also is a huge detriment to the US side of the statistics, since a large chunk of american teams are in Michigan. In fact, I believe michigan has the highest concentration of FRC teams anywhere, and thats WHY the district model was started there.

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Originally Posted by 1075guy (Post 1008077)

yes this is true... But still 40-42 robots at a event is plenty enough... There are events that always have this amount or lower...