Team Update 4
 

http://usfirst.org/uploadedFiles/Rob..._Update_04.pdf

Good: Passing tubes in the air is legal! Woo hoo! This is seriously cool and I'm really glad this happened.

Bad: Mini bot rules AGAIN. FIRST craftily outlaws "prepunched" aluminium and overtly states that supporting FIRST means giving money to Lego:

Oh well. Win some, lose some.

Re: Team Update 4
 

"<G39> ROBOTS and FEEDERS may not SCORE on opponent's PEGS or de-score opponent's GAME PIECES." LOL thought that was kinda a given.
And "<G49> ROBOTS may not attempt to POSSESS a GAME PIECE that is being POSSESSED by an opponent another ROBOT." Seems to me you cant hunt people down for tubes anymore, well back to the drawing board :mad:

Re: Team Update 4
 

What makes you say this?

Re: Team Update 4
 

You can have a robot play Quarterback and pass to other alliance members. I've personally been looking into an efficient shooting system myself.

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yea we get to throw tubes my team already been practicing just in case this happend

Re: Team Update 4
 

"<G49> ROBOTS may not attempt to POSSESS a GAME PIECE that is being POSSESSED by an opponent another ROBOT."

We've always been able to throw, the trick had been close-proximity passing between robots. Previously <G49> outlawed any two robots possessing the same game piece; now it's just between opposing robots. (You can hand-off, just not steal.) We were hoping this'd happen!

Tangent: still no maximum force on the minibot target. Still a little worried they're going to regret that...

Re: Team Update 4
 

This rule already existed, just before it applied to your partners as well.

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Its Funny how a sIngle statement can make you lose any and all respect you once had for a group or entity. Just sayin', interpret that as you wish.

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Woops, totally misunderstood/misread Chris's comment.

Nvm,
Sunny

Re: Team Update 4
 

Apparently because I prefer to support a different mid-level robot program I no longer support FIRST. Thanks GDC for clearing that up.

I will continue to support FRC but I won't be supporting FIRST anymore.

Please tell Dean that I will not be calling my team a FIRST robotics team.

Re: Team Update 4
 

I guess I will no longer be running for a Chairman's award either because the thought of starting (hypothetical situation here) 20 VRC teams in India and the Philippines instead of FTC would apparently get me nowhere!! Yay! These types of things are good to know before I waste my time promoting science and technology through any media possible. Very excited to finally have a concrete idea of where FIRST stands on these types of issues though. /sarcasm.

Excuse the language or not, but that is a load of BS. This'll be my last comment on this issue though. Call me a fanboy or over exaggerating if you want too.

Re: Team Update 4
 

Its the "and their kits" part that gets me. We're supposed to use the money we've raised to buy kits for a completely different program just to make sure the producer of said kits stays profitable?

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Well, if the score gap was really large, and you had some extra pieces left in your feeder station, you could have (before the ruling, of course) thrown the game pieces over the feeder station wall onto one of the nearest opposing alliance's pegs to shorten the scoring gap.

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I completely agree with you there!

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I would like to convey my disgust, but I think IndySam or Akash's statements are enough.