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IKE 27-01-2011 14:19

Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by viperred396 (Post 1008960)
Where can we find a win pump?

http://www.hydropump.net/

In the corner of their website, it says, "A Win Pump Company". :p

Please record the conversation you have with them as I am sure the advice you will get will be quite priceless.

Dargel1625 27-01-2011 15:36

Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run
 
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Originally Posted by IKE (Post 1009780)
http://www.hydropump.net/

In the corner of their website, it says, "A Win Pump Company". :p

Please record the conversation you have with them as I am sure the advice you will get will be quite priceless.

Our secret has been discovered! :eek:

ESPbomb 27-01-2011 15:40

Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run
 
HEY! Is that the height you are planning on deploying your minibot??? Because if not, then I think you are under a false illusion that your minibot goes up in 1.75 seconds. Thanks

thefro526 27-01-2011 15:44

Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run
 
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Originally Posted by ESPbomb (Post 1009829)
HEY! Is that the height you are planning on deploying your minibot??? Because if not, then I think you are under a false illusion that your minibot goes up in 1.75 seconds. Thanks

Are you trying to imply that they're deploying too far up the pole? Looks like they're right around the height of the deployment line to me.

Even if they deployed from the very bottom of the pole, this is still the fastest mini-bot posted on the net thus far.

ESPbomb 27-01-2011 16:02

Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run
 
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Originally Posted by thefro526 (Post 1009833)
Are you trying to imply that they're deploying too far up the pole? Looks like they're right around the height of the deployment line to me.

Even if they deployed from the very bottom of the pole, this is still the fastest mini-bot posted on the net thus far.

Yes I am trying to imply that Mr. Fro. I am also not insinuating that they are not the fastest, but rather that we are not as far behind as we may think. I am not sure about you, but our team originally felt that we were behind when in reality, we are not.
Thanks
ESP

thefro526 27-01-2011 16:10

Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run
 
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Originally Posted by ESPbomb (Post 1009859)
Yes I am trying to imply that Mr. Fro. I am also not insinuating that they are not the fastest, but rather that we are not as far behind as we may think. I am not sure about you, but our team originally felt that we were behind when in reality, we are not.
Thanks
ESP

According to the Manual, the Deployment Line is Approximately 18" Above the Platform of the Tower.

Going on a wild guess here (Someone from 1625 please correct me if I'm wrong) but It looks to me that the Mini-Bot in the Video is being held right around 18" from the Platform. Also, it looks like there might even be a black line on the pole right above the mini-bot, but the video isn't clear enough to tell.

Your team may be different, but I know none of our prototypes, nor any others I've seen climb the tower with the Sort of speed that 1625's Mini-bot does.

pfreivald 27-01-2011 18:13

Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run
 
With the default gearing (1:52), we climbed the pole at 4.1 seconds. We tried gearing the minibot up 2:1 -- and took off exactly the same amount of weight that we added with the gears.

Our new time: (drumroll please!)

4.5 seconds.

Drat!

Time for more tweaking!

Aren_Hill 27-01-2011 18:17

Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run
 
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Originally Posted by ESPbomb (Post 1009829)
HEY! Is that the height you are planning on deploying your minibot??? Because if not, then I think you are under a false illusion that your minibot goes up in 1.75 seconds. Thanks

If I were you, I'd focus on making yours faster, rather than hunting for reasons we're slower than we appear (its not slower than it appears btw).

Be skeptical all you want, but where you settle for speed is up to you, it takes alot for us to be happy with something.

AdamHeard 27-01-2011 18:52

Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run
 
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Originally Posted by Aren_Hill (Post 1009953)
If I were you, I'd focus on making yours faster, rather than hunting for reasons we're slower than we appear (its not slower than it appears btw).

Be skeptical all you want, but where you settle for speed is up to you, it takes alot for us to be happy with something.

It's not fast enough ;)

pfreivald 27-01-2011 19:26

Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run
 
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Originally Posted by Aren_Hill (Post 1009953)
If I were you, I'd focus on making yours faster, rather than hunting for reasons we're slower than we appear (its not slower than it appears btw).

Be skeptical all you want, but where you settle for speed is up to you, it takes alot for us to be happy with something.

I'd be happy with a vague clue as to how you pulled that off!

AdamHeard 27-01-2011 19:36

Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run
 
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Originally Posted by pfreivald (Post 1009985)
I'd be happy with a vague clue as to how you pulled that off!

I think some of the things you DON'T see in the video make it clear how they did it.

pfreivald 27-01-2011 19:58

Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run
 
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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1009992)
I think some of the things you DON'T see in the video make it clear how they did it.

You mean like a battery?

I'm just having issues with my MINIBOT team because it seems that variations on weight and gearing keep resulting in about 4s of climb time no matter what we do, and I'm about to brain myself on a wall in frustration!

vigkvagkv2 27-01-2011 20:12

Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run
 
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Originally Posted by pfreivald (Post 1010011)
I'm about to brain myself on a wall in frustration!

There's one for the spotlight. :)

Chris is me 27-01-2011 20:51

Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run
 
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Originally Posted by pfreivald (Post 1010011)
You mean like a battery?

I'm just having issues with my MINIBOT team because it seems that variations on weight and gearing keep resulting in about 4s of climb time no matter what we do, and I'm about to brain myself on a wall in frustration!

1625 may be faster - but no one said the best robots have to be absolutely fastest.

I'd take a team that had a remarkably consistent minibot over a team that tore their hair out for weeks trying to shave off a second, falling off the bar half the time.

Settling is bad, yes - never do it... as long as you don't backpedal. Don't let the greats discourage you!

pfreivald 27-01-2011 21:25

Re: Team 1625 Minibot FIRST Run
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1010049)
I'd take a team that had a remarkably consistent minibot over a team that tore their hair out for weeks trying to shave off a second, falling off the bar half the time.

Consistency is our top priority, with speed being second.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1010049)
Settling is bad, yes - never do it... as long as you don't backpedal. Don't let the greats discourage you!

I'm not discouraged. If I were the type to get discouraged, I wouldn't be in FIRST. Last year was our best year -- FLR top seeded champions -- and the year before was our worst out of six... We're not the type to go packing just because we're frustrated!

That said, someone mentioned something about the HOSTBOT not being able to deploy the MINIBOT, and that has me worried that I've missed something... The HOSTBOT is permitted to push the MINIBOT onto the tower pole, right?


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