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Chris is me 01-02-2011 19:22

Re: toughest regional in 2011?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 1013667)
But they were a blue banner which is still counted in the 2005-2009 season.

There was no blue banner for EI in 2007 - for sure as well. I don't believe it ever has been awarded a blue banner.

Koko Ed 01-02-2011 19:30

Re: toughest regional in 2011?
 
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Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 1013650)
Assuming that we are talking about toughest regional to become Regional Champion, does it make sense to include chairmans or any other non-regional/divison/world championship blue banner?

If that's the case then you might as well go with straight up won/loss record over the last five years.
There are cases of teams winning championshps that have a losing record. Does that make them a strong team?

BrendanB 01-02-2011 19:35

Re: toughest regional in 2011?
 
It is going to be extremely hard to determine which regional is the hardest. FIRST isn't a sport, the game, strategy, robot, and team changes each and every year.

Midwest is full of powerhouse teams, but if they are all extremely good and everyone else is mediocre than the competition lies between only those good teams.

What about the regionals that are full of good teams?

Koko Ed 01-02-2011 19:37

Re: toughest regional in 2011?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 1013681)
It is going to be extremely hard to determine which regional is the hardest. FIRST isn't a sport, the game, strategy, robot, and team changes each and every year.

Midwest is full of powerhouse teams, but if they are all extremely good and everyone else is mediocre than the competition lies between only those good teams.

What about the regionals that are full of good teams?

Even Michigan doesn't have that. Not until the MSC.

Basel A 01-02-2011 20:41

Re: toughest regional in 2011?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1013682)
Even Michigan doesn't have that. Not until the MSC.

You could argue that even MSC doesn't have it either, but it's the closest any event gets, perhaps even compared to IRI.

Andrew Schreiber 01-02-2011 20:49

Re: toughest regional in 2011?
 
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Originally Posted by 1075guy (Post 1013323)
Anybody up for running the BBQ/SAUCE numbers for 2011 Regional entry lists?

I'll see if I can dig my old scripts out, can't run them right now though because I have a bad internet connection at school and no internet at home. I'll post em if I find em so someone else can run them.

BrendanB 01-02-2011 20:58

Re: toughest regional in 2011?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1013682)
Even Michigan doesn't have that. Not until the MSC.

I was thinking more of a regional like GSR with no super team who always wins although 121/78 have made it to the finals for the past 3 years, but it is full of good teams who when you look at the list you know they will have a competitive robot that can sway a match.

20,40,58,69,78,126,175,1058,1073,1519,1772,and 1922. If all of these teams stuck with their previous standards, that is 12 of 53 good robots who can make for a very interesting finals before the third picks.

I'm not saying GSR is the hardest, but sometimes such events are harder to win.

Koko Ed 01-02-2011 20:59

Re: toughest regional in 2011?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Basel A (Post 1013724)
You could argue that even MSC doesn't have it either, but it's the closest any event gets, perhaps even compared to IRI.

Even IRi has the occasional soft spot (though I haven't seen a true sacrificial lamb alliance yet).

team388girl 01-02-2011 21:04

Re: toughest regional in 2011?
 
i would have to say that the Virginia Regional would be hard because of of 64 teams that compete there, anyone from there agree :)

Tyler Hicks 01-02-2011 22:40

Re: toughest regional in 2011?
 
Michigan has a great championship event, and I do believe it's classified as a Regional. I'm looking forward to TC and WM districts! I have a feeling it's going to be a very interesting season.

MarkoRamius1086 01-02-2011 23:05

Re: toughest regional in 2011?
 
How about this... Can we identify the "Hardest Regional" by week, and then decide from there? Otherwise this is a free-for-all. I would say do Weeks 1-6... and a seperate division for the Michigain Districts and Champs (No offense... and if anything that is a compliment to your competitiveness!)

Week 1:
Granite State --- New Jersey --- Finger Lakes --- Alamo

Week 2:
San Diego --- Florida --- WPI --- Lake Superior --- Greater Kansas City --- Pittsburg --- Wisconsin --- New York City

Week 2.5:
Israel

Week 3:
Arizona --- Sacremento --- Peachtree --- Boilermaker --- Bayou --- Chesapeake --- St. Louis --- Oklahoma --- Lone Star --- Seattle Olympic --- Seattle Cascade

Week 4:
Washington DC --- Waterloo --- Los Angeles --- Hawaii --- Midwest --- Long Island --- Oregon --- Palmetto

Week 5:
East Toronto --- West Toronto --- Silicon Valley --- Connecticut --- 10000 Lakes --- North Star --- Las Vegas --- Smokey Mountain

Week 6:
Colorado --- Boston --- North Carolina --- Buckeye --- Philadelphia --- Dallas --- Utah --- Virginia

Michigan:
Week 1:
Traverse City --- Kettering University

Week 2:
Waterford

Week 3:
West Michigan --- Detroit

Week 4:
Ann Arbor --- Niles

Week 5:
Livonia --- Troy

Week 6:
Michigan Champs


Best of luck this season!
Petrie

Basel A 01-02-2011 23:16

Re: toughest regional in 2011?
 
Close, but Kettering over TC, Detroit over WM, AA over Niles, and Troy over Livonia.

xSAWxBLADEx 01-02-2011 23:19

Re: toughest regional in 2011?
 
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Originally Posted by Basel A (Post 1013902)
Close, but Kettering over TC, Detroit over WM, AA over Niles, and Troy over Livonia.

agreed :)

Alpha Beta 01-02-2011 23:33

Re: toughest regional in 2011?
 
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Originally Posted by Basel A (Post 1013902)
Close, but Kettering over TC, Detroit over WM, AA over Niles, and Troy over Livonia.

I don't think these are pre-listed in order of strength. It is unlikely that Colorado will be more competative than Dallas in week 6, although we will try our best to make it as competative as possible.

hg273 01-02-2011 23:40

Re: toughest regional in 2011?
 
I manually went through FIRST's data, so I could be missing some, but here's San Deigo.
Format: Blue Banners since '05 (Total Blue Banners)

BBQ - 70/59 = 1.1864
SAUCE - 53/59 =.8983


254 - 13 (23)
294 - 4 (8)
399 - 3 (3)
585 - 1 (2)
589 - 0
599 - 0
687 - 0
702 - 0
812 - 3 (3)
968 - 4 (5)
973 - 1
980 - 2 (3)
981 - 0
987 - 8 (8)
1160 - 0
1266 - 1 (1)
1372 - 0
1388 - 0 (1)
1538 - 2 (2)
1540 - 4 (4)
1572 - 0
1622 - 1 (1)
1717 - 4 (4)
1967 - 0
1972 - 0
2029 - 0
2090 - 0
2102 - 0
2193 - 0
2339 - 0
2348 - 1 (1)
2439 - 0
2477 - 0
2485 - 0
2493 - 0
2543 - 1 (1)
2658 - 0
2827 - 0
2839 - 0
2984 - 0
3021 - 0
3128 - 0
3195 - 0
3226 - 0
3255 - 0
3341 - 0
3453 - 0
3470 - 0
3476 - 0
3477 - 0
3480 - 0
3486 - 0
3491 - 0
3500 - 0
3647 - 0
3704 - 0
3749 - 0
3794 - 0
3849 - 0


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