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Eagleeyedan 05-02-2011 21:38
WITHHOLDING ALLOWANCE?
 
In the manual it says that the withholding allowance specifications are in the administrative manual section 5 but I can't find them! Where are they?

Vikesrock 05-02-2011 21:42
Re: WITHHOLDING ALLOWANCE?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagleeyedan (Post 1016546)
In the manual it says that the withholding allowince specifications are in the administrative manual section 5 but I can't find them! Where are they?
What it says is in Section 5 is the Shipment Deadline. The phrase "Withholding Allowance" is in bold so it is defined in Section 1 of the Administrative Manual. The Withholding Allowance is also covered in rule <R33>.

EricH 05-02-2011 21:43
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Check <R33>.

ATannahill 05-02-2011 21:43
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This is what you are referencing

Quote:
Originally Posted by section 1
WITHHOLDING ALLOWANCE – a limited amount of FABRICATED ITEMS that are withheld from the shipping requirements (specified in the 2011 FRC Administrative Manual, Section 5) and retained by the team following the shipping deadlines. These items are then hand-carried to a competition event by the team. The OPERATOR CONSOLE is automatically included in the WITHHOLDING ALLOWANCE. Beyond that, the incoming material maximums specified in Rule <R33> limits the amount of FABRICATED ITEMS included in the WITHHOLDING ALLOWANCE.
Emphasis mine. The specs you want for the withholding allowance are in section 4: The Robot.

Eagleeyedan 05-02-2011 21:52
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So it's 30 lbs?

Vikesrock 05-02-2011 21:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagleeyedan (Post 1016558)
So it's 30 lbs?
Yes, 30lbs + Minibot + Operator Console + Batteries, wire and Anderson connector

Eagleeyedan 05-02-2011 21:56
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Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 1016561)
Yes, 30lbs + Minibot + Operator Console + Batteries, wire and Anderson connector
Thanks. That helped. I've been searching the manual for 10 minutes trying to find it. I guess I wasn't looking in the right place :rolleyes:

martin417 05-02-2011 21:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagleeyedan (Post 1016558)
So it's 30 lbs?
For now. In the past when bad weather has affected many teams in an adverse manner, they have increased it to 50 LBs. Don't assume that will happen this year, but you never can tell.

Eagleeyedan 05-02-2011 22:07
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Originally Posted by martin417 (Post 1016564)
For now. In the past when bad weather has affected many teams in an adverse manner, they have increased it to 50 LBs. Don't assume that will happen this year, but you never can tell.
I noticed in an older version it said 45 lbs.

pfreivald 05-02-2011 23:16
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Our entire HOSTBOT comes in at less than 100lbs (without thus-mandatory IMPROVEMENTS), so I'm thinking that an increase in WITHHOLDING ALLOWANCE will result in a massive decrease in VACATION TIME for this mentor...

*sigh*. I did sign up for this, after all... And I do love it so!

Alex Cormier 05-02-2011 23:58
Re: WITHHOLDING ALLOWANCE?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pfreivald (Post 1016618)
Our entire HOSTBOT comes in at less than 100lbs (without thus-mandatory IMPROVEMENTS), so I'm thinking that an increase in WITHHOLDING ALLOWANCE will result in a massive decrease in VACATION TIME for this mentor...

*sigh*. I did sign up for this, after all... And I do love it so!
Well... when you get your banebots order, that should go up a bit. :p

pfreivald 06-02-2011 00:09
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Originally Posted by Alex Cormier (Post 1016663)
Well... when you get your banebots order, that should go up a bit. :p
I feel ya... But fortunately, we did get it on Friday!

Eagleeyedan 06-02-2011 16:22
Re: WITHHOLDING ALLOWANCE?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pfreivald (Post 1016618)
Our entire HOSTBOT comes in at less than 100lbs (without thus-mandatory IMPROVEMENTS), so I'm thinking that an increase in WITHHOLDING ALLOWANCE will result in a massive decrease in VACATION TIME for this mentor...

*sigh*. I did sign up for this, after all... And I do love it so!
Well, the students on our team really appriciate all the work our mentors do for us. Here's a big thanks to all mentors who give up their time to build our futures! THANKS!!!

EricH 06-02-2011 17:07
Re: WITHHOLDING ALLOWANCE?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagleeyedan (Post 1016574)
I noticed in an older version it said 45 lbs.
Actually, last year, it started at 40, and was increased to 65.

This year, it started at 30. No increase is foreseen.

spacepenguine 06-02-2011 17:55
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How does the withholding allowance work between competitions? I couldn't find any mention of it in the rules. Like, if you brought 30lbs of manufactured parts in to your first competition which you then bag with your robot at the conclusion of the competition, can you then bring in 30 new lbs of parts for the next competition (limited, of course, by the 120lb hostbot limit)?


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