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Sh1ine 07-02-2011 17:01

Horse Power
 
Does anyone know how much HP is created by a CIM?

Currently we have 2 running in a custom transmission with a 7.1:1 reduction.

2611.Shooter 07-02-2011 17:44

Re: Horse Power
 
340 watts = 0.45594751 hp
(confirm watts?)

BHS_STopping 07-02-2011 18:37

Re: Horse Power
 
Certainly no more than 480 watts, since the CIMs can theoretically consume 40 Amps (before the breakers trip) over 12 volts, which equates to 480 watts (Power = Current * Voltage). However, due to losses from heat (which is quite substantial, just try to put your hand on a CIM after a match) this number is probably much lower.

theprgramerdude 07-02-2011 20:03

Re: Horse Power
 
What Shooter said, although I believe the max power is 343 watts at 66 amps. After gearbox losses, It's likely to be closer to 280-310 watts per motor, or .375-.415 HP per motor.

Sh1ine 07-02-2011 21:01

Re: Horse Power
 
Thanks. One more, how do I find out how much torque is applied after the gear box?

theprgramerdude 07-02-2011 22:31

Re: Horse Power
 
You'll have to be more specific, as the torque output by the motor will be dependent upon the current being applied to the motor, which is then dependent upon the voltage and spinning speed, which itself is based upon what resistance it encounters and the torques being applied.

WizenedEE 08-02-2011 00:24

Re: Horse Power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh1ine (Post 1017976)
Thanks. One more, how do I find out how much torque is applied after the gear box?

http://usfirst.org/uploadedFiles/Rob...rves_Rev_A.pdf

Torque is on the bottom, and you'll probably want to look at current. Since you can't apply more than 40 amps, you'll get about 120 oz-in of torque.

AustinSchuh 08-02-2011 00:48

Re: Horse Power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WizenedEE (Post 1018184)
Since you can't apply more than 40 amps, you'll get about 120 oz-in of torque.

You are assuming that the breakers will limit the current to 40 amps, or blow instantaneously at 40 amps. That is not true. You can draw much more than 40 amps for short periods of time. It is not a good idea to require more than 40 amps of current for extended periods of time, because eventually the breakers will heat up and blow, and the CIM will start to get rather hot.

Al Skierkiewicz 08-02-2011 00:56

Re: Horse Power
 
Guys,
40 amp breakers (actually all breakers on the robot) can withstand short periods (seconds) of 600% over rated trip current. CIM motors stall at 133 amps which is well below the 240 amps that would instantly trip the auto resetting circuit breaker. The breaker resets almost instantly.

D.Allred 08-02-2011 13:36

Re: Horse Power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh1ine (Post 1017976)
Thanks. One more, how do I find out how much torque is applied after the gear box?

I assume you are designing a drive train and need to determine load on the system at that gear ratio. Load depends on several factors. For FRC drive trains, most people use JVN's Advanced Drivetrain Calculator. You can find the spreadsheet and presentation file at the link below.

http://thinktank.wpi.edu/article/5


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