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chemipanda 17-02-2011 16:18

Minibots
 
Looking at pictures of robots this year I dont seem to be seeing any minibots or minibot deployments on there robots. How many teams out there actually doing minibots and deploying them?

LaserWorks 17-02-2011 16:31

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We are by far. It's mostly developed. To give out mini bot team incentive. They... Uhh. Don't know it doesn't need to be finished by tomorrow. So they're working really hard.

Jon Stratis 17-02-2011 16:39

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Two words: Withholding Allowance.

We've started looking at the minibot, but haven't really gotten to building it yet. Likewise, we can't really build our deployment system until the minibot is finished and we know what sort of attachment points and movement we'll need.

However, we do know where the minibot will go on the robot, and how the deployment system will end up getting attached to the robot. I guess that's the benefit of having a 12" high platform on the back of your robot :)

MisterL 17-02-2011 16:47

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We have a mini-bot. It is developed for the most part, though it still has some programming and testing that it needs to get done first. The main problem we are having is deployment. Though we should have that done before Sunday (Shipping Day).

Mike Martus 17-02-2011 22:20

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The mini-bot has been a big distraction in building the FIRST Robot. This mini- sucks the life out of teams in resources - both $$$ and labor/time.

I have my concerns over this path by FIRST.

I hope it turns out better than I think it will.... I hope I am wrong. FIRST is such a GREAT program.

pfreivald 17-02-2011 22:44

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The minibot is going great, and it was wonderful to be able to spin off a 'minibot team' to work with minibot and deployment issues.

I wish they were a bit less limited in terms of what we could do, or a bit more... (No wheels would have been a fun limitation...) ...but overall, I say 'bravo' on the idea and 'ouch' to any team that decides to forgo them.

WileyB-J 17-02-2011 22:49

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Ours is deployed on a rack/pinion with a banebot/drill-motor all custom made in-house.

cmass 17-02-2011 23:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WileyB-J (Post 1025617)

Ours is deployed on a rack/pinion with a banebot/drill-motor all custom made in-house.

It is clear that you love your waterjet!

How high can you reach .... first level?

pilum40 18-02-2011 10:18

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How does this mini bot deploy? We're having a heck of a time getting our mini bot deployed off our big bot.

Thanks...inquirin' minds wanna' know...:eek:

thefro526 18-02-2011 10:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Martus (Post 1025583)
The mini-bot has been a big distraction in building the FIRST Robot. This mini- sucks the life out of teams in resources - both $$$ and labor/time.

Mike, I agree with you. Our limited human resources were spread so thin this year that the minibot had slipped to the end of the priority list after the full sized bot. We just got one running this week, and were lucky enough to get good enough results to where we just need to test and tune.

Our deployment system will most likely be some sort of stick though, since we don't really have weight for much else... :rolleyes:

pilum40 18-02-2011 10:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmass (Post 1025632)
It is clear that you love your waterjet!

How high can you reach .... first level?

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefro526 (Post 1025850)
Mike, I agree with you. Our limited human resources were spread so thin this year that the minibot had slipped to the end of the priority list after the full sized bot. We just got one running this week, and were lucky enough to get good enough results to where we just need to test and tune.

Our deployment system will most likely be some sort of stick though, since we don't really have weight for much else... :rolleyes:

We're not even to the test stage yet on minibot. I'm thinking we won't be done for the bag/tag on the 22nd. If I could find another used CRio, we could keep testing code, etc. for the minibot. I really am not liking this year's game. The dual development processes have trimmed our team down to about 8 people. The rest have attrited due to AP prep, sports, etc. I'm hoping FIRST will not do a multiple game next year.

WileyB-J 18-02-2011 17:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmass (Post 1025632)
It is clear that you love your waterjet!

How high can you reach .... first level?

not a waterjet! cnc plasma/laser :)
it can reach the middle row with ease.

Steve Miller: it sits on the stick at the front, the rack spits out to the pole and the minibot drives off it upon the pole (if that makes sense)

MisterL 18-02-2011 17:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WileyB-J (Post 1026162)
not a waterjet! cnc plasma/laser :)
it can reach the middle row with ease.

Steve Miller: it sits on the stick at the front, the rack spits out to the pole and the minibot drives off it upon the pole (if that makes sense)

Does your robot actually drive up the pole with ease? My team has had the hardest time getting it to drive up the pole (mostly weight distribution issues).

Dr Fritz 18-02-2011 18:20

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our team is doing a mini-bot and are very close to being done

mcnabb100 18-02-2011 19:05

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My team does have a plan for one, but we haven't started building it yet. If I'm not mistaken the minibot team did make a prototype out of fichertechnik parts, but it isn't looking like we will have it done by ship day, so we will have to bring that with us when we go.

MisterL 18-02-2011 19:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mcnabb100 (Post 1026242)
My team does have a plan for one, but we haven't started building it yet. If I'm not mistaken the minibot team did make a prototype out of fichertechnik parts, but it isn't looking like we will have it done by ship day, so we will have to bring that with us when we go.

Aren't you so relieved that we don't have to ship out our mini-bots with our big bots?

Wrmwolf 18-02-2011 19:17

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We are :D

Lavapicker 18-02-2011 19:27

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We've had a subteam working on it from day one. They have it down to right around 3 seconds up. That activates a switch and it comes down nicely in slow motion by stalling the motors. We're spiraling up the pole which is something we are working on to get the times down more. Deployment is a simple cylinder activated arm. I'm assuming the lack of posts on CD is due to teams holding their cards close to their vests since teams can still work on their minibots after the ship date???

WileyB-J 18-02-2011 19:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterL (Post 1026180)
Does your robot actually drive up the pole with ease? My team has had the hardest time getting it to drive up the pole (mostly weight distribution issues).

beautifully. i cant say much about the it but i designed it to be as simple as possible, and simple it is. ;)

MisterL 18-02-2011 19:55

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Thats great! Maybe we can see a video at some point? ;)

WileyB-J 18-02-2011 20:19

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absolutely, our first matches are at the end of march so expect the cat out of the bag around then.

MisterL 18-02-2011 20:21

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I look forward to seeing it, from the sounds of it you guys seem to have it in the bag! =)

davidthefat 19-02-2011 11:10

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My team has a working deployment system and a minibot that is relatively fast. It is just that the pneumatics are leaking or something.

pfreivald 20-02-2011 00:13

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We tested today and had deploy+climb at <3 seconds about a dozen times in a row. Very consistent!

MisterL 20-02-2011 00:31

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So we have been arguing about restarting our mini-bot, but we dont know if we have time and though our current mini-bot is too hefty and innaccurate our only other design is one that only uses lego parts. Can you only use lego parts and a brain?

orisenak 20-02-2011 04:21

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Our Minibot can deploy/climbed in 2.6 seconds!!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVMd8sCR7gA

Hope you enjoy the vid

-team 1056

mcnabb100 20-02-2011 22:15

Re: Minibots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterL (Post 1026243)
Aren't you so relieved that we don't have to ship out our mini-bots with our big bots?

Yes I am!


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