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wilsonmw04 19-02-2011 22:35

A Slightly Different Robot For Logomotion
 
Greetings,
My team came up with a slightly different approach to the game this year. Two words were kept in sharp focus during the planning and building: Simple and Consistent. I think we have succeeded. Here are a few quick looks at what we put together.

http://www.youtube.com/user/wilsonmw.../1/MVyRMAc8a1E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=hSzRSF-r3NU

http://www.youtube.com/user/wilsonmw04?feature=mhum


Note: The only big thing we have to add before we are "done" is the minibot deployment system.

JordanC 19-02-2011 22:51

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We had the exact same words in our strategy, however those words were quickly forgotten by about week 3.

P.S nice bot and choice of music in the background

BrendanB 19-02-2011 23:03

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I like it!

Blackphantom91 20-02-2011 04:18

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I think its a valid stratagey if you basicly can run the bottom rows very quickly and your partners can get the top and mid you can clean up quite well keep it up.

Chris Fultz 20-02-2011 08:08

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very nice. clean and simple - and effective.

wilsonmw04 20-02-2011 08:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Fultz (Post 1027311)
very nice. clean and simple - and effective.

Thanks,
We hope that we fill a niche in the game that others have overlooked.

Tetraman 20-02-2011 08:44

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I like the risk you took. You'd be an exelent selection for a second pick 4-1 seed team that wants some points and some defense. Make sure your team sells yourself to all the teams during competition.

Good luck.

PayneTrain 20-02-2011 09:59

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I think this will pan out. If our lift doesn't work, we'll probably just put the arm on a static plate and do this.

I still hope our lift works.

You also are going to be a heavy, low to the ground robot. The way it throws tubes around at low, low speeds, the sucker has to have a gloriously high momentum at high speeds. Might scare the other team off the field.

Grim Tuesday 20-02-2011 23:52

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I wish you luck on this. Our team decided against this strategy, though I was the one pushing it, so im rooting for you!

JesseK 21-02-2011 11:41

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I too am rooting for you! I was told early on that my desire to simplify the strategy of the game to make our build season easier was "constricting the engineering process". Something similar to this is exactly what I had in mind, heh. With some practice and a decent minibot, you guys will be a great carrier bot on an alliance!

Dancin103 21-02-2011 12:17

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It looks good. It's nice and simple and will hopefully fill that void that some team may forget about. Plus, if you have a fast minibot, you've got it! Nice work guys and good luck! :)

thefro526 21-02-2011 12:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetraman (Post 1027329)
I like the risk you took. You'd be an exelent selection for a second pick 4-1 seed team that wants some points and some defense. Make sure your team sells yourself to all the teams during competition.

Good luck.

These were my thoughts exactly. Play as a feeder/defense/last minute scorer type of robot and you will surely find a place on some alliance.

Bob Steele 21-02-2011 14:14

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We would be looking for a robot like this one ...but we might ask you to drop the tube in the zone and go and get another one... we can grab off the ground and get it to the 3rd wrung very quickly...

So you might think about your abilities as a shuttle robot too... I think a shuttle robot is great addition to an alliance and a shuttle robot that could also score on the low rungs is even better.

Great job!!
We hope to see you in St. Louis!!

Sean Raia 21-02-2011 18:12

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Not a bad idea, and it looks like a well constructed robot so good job.

I do have to point out though, that chopstick like mechanism that you use to lift the tube doesn't seem to grasp them very securely. I may be missing something.

Lil' Lavery 21-02-2011 18:55

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Have you practiced with a wall in between your drivers and the pegs they're scoring on? The lowest pegs are beneath the drivers, and they can be very hard to see from certain positions.

vigkvagkv2 21-02-2011 19:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Steele (Post 1028416)
We would be looking for a robot like this one ...but we might ask you to drop the tube in the zone and go and get another one... we can grab off the ground and get it to the 3rd wrung very quickly...

You know, Chill Out! is doing a feeder robot this year too. ;)

wilsonmw04 21-02-2011 19:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1028651)
Have you practiced with a wall in between your drivers and the pegs they're scoring on? The lowest pegs are beneath the drivers, and they can be very hard to see from certain positions.

We'll do that during the 6 weeks we have until the VA regional. What's going to make this year work for us is the drivers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Raia
I do have to point out though, that chopstick like mechanism that you use to lift the tube doesn't seem to grasp them very securely. I may be missing something.

It's not an iron grip but I think it will get the job done.
http://www.youtube.com/user/wilsonmw.../3/6e7ZjKqPBCk
One of the things we are stressing with those who are practicing driving is that they keep the tubes in "travel position" which will keep everything inside the frame.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Steele
We would be looking for a robot like this one ...but we might ask you to drop the tube in the zone and go and get another one... we can grab off the ground and get it to the 3rd wrung very quickly...

So you might think about your abilities as a shuttle robot too... I think a shuttle robot is great addition to an alliance and a shuttle robot that could also score on the low rungs is even better.

Great job!!
We hope to see you in St. Louis!!

St. Louise would be our pipe dream. :) I just hope that we get into our first official FIRST elimination match! Let the chips fall where they may. This little guy is going to be fun to drive.

Chris is me 21-02-2011 19:42

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I think you guys can work wonders as a tube passer / tube mover in addition to any lower scoring.

Jstack14 22-02-2011 21:05

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Risky Risky Risky! VEry good robot for its strategy however i really wonder how well this will play out for you. I hope well. My only concern is the low scores on the bottom row. Our team can make a logo on the top row in less than 50 seconds without any interference plus a minibot deployment. I do not know how many other teams are like ours but if there are many (which ipresume there will be) then the amount of points you rack up will not be noticeable. However, based on the matches i have watched, many teams struggle to score so u may very well be a very useful little bot. Especailly as a deffnder who can score a little bit. Good Luck!

wilsonmw04 22-02-2011 22:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jstack14 (Post 1029583)
Risky Risky Risky! VEry good robot for its strategy however i really wonder how well this will play out for you. I hope well. My only concern is the low scores on the bottom row. Our team can make a logo on the top row in less than 50 seconds without any interference plus a minibot deployment. I do not know how many other teams are like ours but if there are many (which ipresume there will be) then the amount of points you rack up will not be noticeable. However, based on the matches i have watched, many teams struggle to score so u may very well be a very useful little bot. Especailly as a deffnder who can score a little bit. Good Luck!


The uncertainty is what is going to make it so fun. It will be rather interesting to see how this year is going to play out. A bit over a week and we'll see how this game shakes out.

Chris is me 22-02-2011 22:12

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It's almost always far more risky to do too much and fail than it is to do too little and to be really, really good at it.

"man, what a huge risk, if only your robot was as good as ours" is not a very gracious way to recognize this.

Jstack14 22-02-2011 22:16

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that is not at all what i wasa trying to say. You misunderstood i think. I think he understood what i meant. It is obvious they did not shoot to be a "power house" and it is a big risk to try and be a lower scoring robot because you rely on other teams. My point is that many robots will be able to score a lot more points, however their robot very effectivley does what it was designed for, and will every match, it will be interesting to see how it pans out...

BrendanB 23-02-2011 00:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jstack14 (Post 1029583)
Risky Risky Risky! VEry good robot for its strategy however i really wonder how well this will play out for you. I hope well. My only concern is the low scores on the bottom row. Our team can make a logo on the top row in less than 50 seconds without any interference plus a minibot deployment. I do not know how many other teams are like ours but if there are many (which ipresume there will be) then the amount of points you rack up will not be noticeable. However, based on the matches i have watched, many teams struggle to score so u may very well be a very useful little bot. Especailly as a deffnder who can score a little bit. Good Luck!

Our team is using a similar strategy since weight was becoming an issue so there went the second row.

If we can get 1 logo on the bottom row plus being the first up the pole, that is a decent score on your own. Based on the week zero event in Nashua it takes time to line up and place a tube on the top row. I'm sure we can keep at top row robot well stocked with tubes to score.

Jstack14 23-02-2011 08:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 1029732)
Our team is using a similar strategy since weight was becoming an issue so there went the second row.

If we can get 1 logo on the bottom row plus being the first up the pole, that is a decent score on your own. Based on the week zero event in Nashua it takes time to line up and place a tube on the top row. I'm sure we can keep at top row robot well stocked with tubes to score.

Yea with a minibot (if it is good) then you will have a strong robot no doubt. 30 points is just insane for them! and as a feeder you would be great to.


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