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Chris is me 20-02-2011 18:38

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MrForbes 20-02-2011 18:40

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That's a really neat idea!

;)

Chris is me 20-02-2011 19:54

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No idea where that came from, nope...

We stepped up the PVC tube diameter for a bit more rigidity than your system. It's paid off pretty well! Now that I think about it, our robots are dramatically similar this year...

Andrew Schreiber 20-02-2011 20:26

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How do you hold an ubertube for auton?

MrForbes 20-02-2011 20:30

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I expect they'll have to pick it up off the floor. Probably requires a bit of forward/backward driving to get it.

thefro526 20-02-2011 20:36

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Did you guys have something really cool in your base or was that guy just admiring your work?

Anyway, the bot looks awesome - get those guys some practice and it'll do great.

Chris is me 20-02-2011 20:37

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Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1027811)
How do you hold an ubertube for auton?

Unfortunately, the gripper open breaks starting configuration, so our plan is to floor load. It probably will take more time to tune than we have to make it work (we have a Thursday) but oh well.


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Originally Posted by thefro526 (Post 1027817)
Did you guys have something really cool in your base or was that guy just admiring your work?

Anyway, the bot looks awesome - get those guys some practice and it'll do great.

We've got a removable electronics board and cantilevered drive. They look cool!

We don't have much time for practice, but luckily we have a veteran driver waiting to get his hands on the bot.

R.C. 20-02-2011 20:40

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Chris,

Great robot, did you guys not have weight for an aluminum arm?

-RC

Chris is me 20-02-2011 20:42

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Originally Posted by R.C. (Post 1027823)
Chris,

Great robot, did you guys not have weight for an aluminum arm?

-RC

We're well under. PVC was cheaper, more available, and could more easily slide within each other without the need for any actuation. It's also easier to work with.

We bought very large (2.5" outer stage) PVC to ensure there'd be some rigidity in the arm.

MrForbes 20-02-2011 20:45

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We have enough rigidity with a 2" outer arm and 1.5" inner. It wiggles, but that's not a problem. Using ABS lets us have less weight and a more robust arm, but as you noticed the only 2.5" you can find easily is gray electrical conduit.

Andrew Schreiber 20-02-2011 20:49

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1027818)
Unfortunately, the gripper open breaks starting configuration, so our plan is to floor load. It probably will take more time to tune than we have to make it work (we have a Thursday) but oh well.

Perhaps look into a single shot piece that holds the tube to you and your arm grabs from at the start of match. 27 did something like that in 2005 and it worked pretty well. The last thing you want is to introduce MORE human error into your auton.

Chris is me 20-02-2011 20:55

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Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1027835)
Perhaps look into a single shot piece that holds the tube to you and your arm grabs from at the start of match. 27 did something like that in 2005 and it worked pretty well. The last thing you want is to introduce MORE human error into your auton.

There really isn't a good place to put something like that. The arm has a very limited range of travel so it can't bend around a corner to grab something weirdly placed.

Current plan is to put tube on ground touching bumper. Back up, extend arm, open gripper, drive into tube, close gripper, proceed with auton.

MrForbes 20-02-2011 20:55

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might want to add "push tube forward" in there somewhere

Joe Ross 21-02-2011 11:17

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1027847)
Current plan is to put tube on ground touching bumper. Back up, extend arm, open gripper, drive into tube, close gripper, proceed with auton.

That's what we did in 2007. I think we missed only once in about 50 matches.

KleinKid 21-02-2011 11:34

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Team 3735 is earliy similar to this but our system is a little more sturdy i think. We used 1" aluminum inside of 1.5" aluminum and instead of gravity for extension we rigged up a 1.5" bore pneumatic piston. Being able to retract the arm during the game makes driving around and placing tubes on the rack much easier.

I'm very jealous and curious of your 7 victor controlers on your electronics board. 4 are probably for the CIM motors on your drivetrain but what are the other three used for other than controling the arm?


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