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ratdude747 27-02-2011 22:18

most "epic" motor ever
 
having seen motors from years past, i have seen some beastly ones. like the van door and the minibike cim.

so, What in your is the most epic motor ever included in the KOP?

TNT280Staff 27-02-2011 22:28

Re: most "epic" motor ever
 
I'd have to say that the Globe motor was the most versatile motor we used to get, the Cim is by far the best we get now.

MattC9 27-02-2011 22:30

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CIM 'nuff said

PAR_WIG1350 27-02-2011 22:37

Re: most "epic" motor ever
 
The new FP and the RS-755-18 are, currently, the most powerful "smaller than a 2.5" cim" class motors.

if we expand it beyond the KOP and FIRST, this gets my vote.:D :cool: :eek: :ahh: :p

Chris is me 27-02-2011 22:41

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I want a kit that lets you use as many CIMs and Globes as you want, and no other motors. Wouldn't that be nice?

,4lex S. 27-02-2011 22:54

Re: most "epic" motor ever
 
The 2011 Fisher Price Motor. With enough speed to get air over the armature it is a beast.

MattC9 27-02-2011 23:03

Re: most "epic" motor ever
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1032406)
I want a kit that lets you use as many CIMs and Globes as you want, and no other motors. Wouldn't that be nice?

Why were the globes ever ruled out?

Hawiian Cadder 27-02-2011 23:11

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i think in an ideal world we would have 4 cims, 4 FP, 4 window motors.

Dad1279 27-02-2011 23:15

Re: most "epic" motor ever
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1032406)
I want a kit that lets you use as many CIMs and Globes as you want, and no other motors. Wouldn't that be nice?

+1. In that case, this year we'd have 8 CIMs on the drivetrain, one for the lift, and two globes on the roller gripper. ;)

CIMs & Globes have been bulletproof.

So far the 775s are holding up, we got lucky with 4 good ones out of 6.

Tristan Lall 27-02-2011 23:15

Re: most "epic" motor ever
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ratdude747 (Post 1032395)
having seen motors from years past, i have seen some beastly ones. like the van door and the minibike cim.

so, What in your is the most epic motor ever included in the KOP?

Those were poseurs.

The van door motors were good in that they were the largest worm geared motors available, but they were only around 70 W output. And when it came down to using the worm gear for holding something in place, you quickly discovered that they could be backdriven one of two ways: either because the plastic worm gear's efficiency was too high, or because you'd stripped the teeth off of that aforementioned plastic gear.

Similarly, the minibike motors (CIM FP801-005/Fisher-Price) were only about 270 W. Regular (smaller) CIMs are more powerful.

My vote is for the Bosch drill motors in the kits in 2003 and 2004 (Bosch 2 607 022 078/Scintilla). Their output was 448 W, with a free speed of 19 760 rev/min. If it weren't for the tricky mounting points, the 0.7 module gear and the fragile and exposed electrical connections, they'd be perfect....

In fact, the only other motors to approach that kind of performance were the incredible self-destructing Fisher-Prices from 2005 (the Mabuchi 74550-0642, which was designed for 6 V, but given to us to run at 12 V with 407 W output power).

Jeffy 27-02-2011 23:42

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Well, if you were looking for beastly, it looks like that was answered above.

However, I really miss the keyag motors. I don't know much about their power outuput, but it was definitely more than the densos we have now. Also, globes were great! You could use them for just about any sort of manipulator.

Lowfategg 27-02-2011 23:58

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I know everyone hates them but I really like denso window motors when used correctly. Non-backdriving and low rpm thanks to the integrated worm gear drive.

Everything else, FP and CIM.

Duncan Macdonald 28-02-2011 00:00

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Never had an issue with a CIM or globe. Stripped, deformed, burned out, thermal tripped, or broke the leads on nearly everything else.:rolleyes:

theprgramerdude 28-02-2011 00:04

Re: most "epic" motor ever
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duncan Macdonald (Post 1032451)
Never had an issue with a CIM or globe. Stripped, deformed, burned out, thermal tripped, or broke the leads on nearly everything else.:rolleyes:

What he said, although we have managed to push CIM's to the frying point before (4 wheel long-config skid drive. The nightmares of watching it try to turn....)

Andy A. 28-02-2011 01:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan Lall (Post 1032430)
Those were poseurs.
In fact, the only other motors to approach that kind of performance were the incredible self-destructing Fisher-Prices from 2005 (the Mabuchi 74550-0642, which was designed for 6 V, but given to us to run at 12 V with 407 W output power).

That was a fun year. We didn't figure out the design voltage difference until we were already committed to using two of them in an xrp transmission. It was fun finding out they were 4 times more powerful then we had anticipated.

It's a miracle we didn't kill them, or the transmission.


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