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dodar 01-03-2011 11:29

Big Minibots
 
Since teams have been posting pics and vids of their robots and minibots something I have been noticing as been getting to me. Why is it that alot of teams are building these huge and complex minibots? I mean teams are building minibots that look like they are maxing out the size limits near 12"x12"x12". Why build a big one over a small one? Pros? Cons?

Jack Jones 01-03-2011 11:43

Re: Big Minibots
 
IDK - Because they can?

JesseK 01-03-2011 11:50

Re: Big Minibots
 
Why bother to even start this conversation?

It's pretty apparent from your remarks that you already understand that others' design processes greatly differ from your team's design process.

dodar 01-03-2011 12:06

Re: Big Minibots
 
Such negative posts. The reason I started the thread was to see if anyone with a huge minibot would post as to why they made theirs so big compared to a really small one

ATannahill 01-03-2011 12:06

Re: Big Minibots
 
Jack and Jesse,

There are many advantages to having this kind of thread.

The original poster was asking why the decision was made for the large minibot. Do they feel that the additional weight is counteracted by something? If so what is it?

Please don't post in a thred to belittle the person asking a legitimate question.

BKitzrow 01-03-2011 12:17

Re: Big Minibots
 
In fairness to Jack and Jesse, the original post was worded in a way that seemed to insinuate that a larger minibot is a terrible idea that no team should have used. As a mentor of a team that has built a larger minibot, I will say that it mostly came down to us finding a design that worked for us. Could our design be more compact? Probably, but after several design iterations that failed miserably, we are happy to have a functioning minibot regardless of its size.

BrendanB 01-03-2011 12:21

Re: Big Minibots
 
A 4 inch minibot has more distance to travel to the top than a 12 inch minbot. Ours is at the max of 12 inches and can travel up much faster than some a fraction of its size and that is before lightening and speed holing!

But we are definitely not faster than 118,148,217,and 1114! ;)

notmattlythgoe 01-03-2011 12:23

Re: Big Minibots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 1033115)
A 4 inch minibot has more distance to travel to the top than a 12 inch minbot. Ours is at the max of 12 inches and can travel up much faster than some a fraction of its size and that is before lightening and speed holing!

But we are definitely not faster than 118,148,217,and 1114! ;)

That all depends on how close to the deployment line you deploy either of them.

BrendanB 01-03-2011 12:24

Re: Big Minibots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe (Post 1033117)
That all depends on how close to the deployment line you deploy either of them.

That is true, but again it depends on where they deploy from and I have seen several deploying near the bottom.

MrForbes 01-03-2011 12:26

Re: Big Minibots
 
We didn't figure out how to make a small minibot.

I expect many other teams have the same reason.

notmattlythgoe 01-03-2011 12:26

Re: Big Minibots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by squirrel (Post 1033121)
We didn't figure out how to make a small minibot.

I expect many other teams have the same reason.

Just put it in the dryer for a few extra cycles. That should shrink it down nice and small.

czeke 01-03-2011 13:13

Re: Big Minibots
 
Our team just sort of figured that it would be easier to try to push 5/6 pounds up the pole, instead of 12-15 pounds. We want to maximize the traction, using 2 wheels, and minimize the drag. We aren't using magnets to hold ourselves, close to the pole, because of drag. We using 2 semicircular pieces of PVC, that are connected, like a hinge and open, before deployment, and snap together, after deployment. The magnets will hold the open ends together.

Joe Schornak 01-03-2011 13:27

Re: Big Minibots
 
I think that this trend partly results from using the Tetrix structural components in one's minibot. When my team was prototyping designs using Tetrix parts, we found that we had to have significant structural members to get things like motors, gears, and wheels in proper stable alignment. When we later built a custom minibot body, we were able to mount all the components exactly where they needed to be, saving weight and volume.

Then again, we ARE using a minibot that has a single motor and wheel...

cire 20-03-2011 15:26

Re: Big Minibots
 
our 15 lb minibot gives our hostbot the extra traction it needs to push around other robots with ease. :)

edit - We didn't actually do this, but I wanted to... I am sure some teams did it.

Chris is me 20-03-2011 15:33

Re: Big Minibots
 
The most obvious thing I can think of is that a taller minibot can be deployed closer to the ground and hit the target as soon as a shorter minibot. Depends on the design.


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