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topgun 03-03-2011 18:38

Re: Minibot Motor Press Fit
 
I would like to introduce you to a wonderful site of utilities for the shop:
http://www.myvirtualnetwork.com/mklotz/#shop

Many, many programs that calculate whatever you need to do in the shop. Your answer should be found with the FITS program.

Go up one level and you will find a bunch of math programs as well.

I have also noticed that the KOP CAD models from PTC have incorrect diameters on the motor shafts.

DinerKid 03-03-2011 21:13

Re: Minibot Motor Press Fit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1034223)
I didn't know clamps came small enough to rigidly fix onto a 2.5mm shaft...

McMaster has set screw collars that are as small as 2mm bore...

Those are not exactly what i was talking about though. I was thinking about something like a 2 piece clamp on shaft collar. Lets hypothetically say you were trying to attach a wheel onto the shaft, you could make the wheel 2 pieces and put it together like a 2 piece shaft collar.

Set screw collar with 2mm bore: http://www.mcmaster.com/#shaft-collars/=ba2mtj PN: 57485K61
The OD on this one is 6.4mm that seems like plenty for you to ream it out to 2.5mm ID if you wanted to

2 piece shaft collars: http://www.mcmaster.com/#shaft-collars/=ba2k88

~DK

TerryS 04-03-2011 03:11

Re: Minibot Motor Press Fit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DinerKid (Post 1034321)
McMaster has set screw collars that are as small as 2mm bore...

Those are not exactly what i was talking about though. I was thinking about something like a 2 piece clamp on shaft collar. Lets hypothetically say you were trying to attach a wheel onto the shaft, you could make the wheel 2 pieces and put it together like a 2 piece shaft collar.

Set screw collar with 2mm bore: http://www.mcmaster.com/#shaft-collars/=ba2mtj PN: 57485K61
The OD on this one is 6.4mm that seems like plenty for you to ream it out to 2.5mm ID if you wanted to

2 piece shaft collars: http://www.mcmaster.com/#shaft-collars/=ba2k88

~DK

Are these legal minibot materials? Do they fall under "S. Mechanical fasteners"?

Mr V 04-03-2011 03:22

Re: Minibot Motor Press Fit
 
We found that in aluminum a sharp 3/32" bit at the right feed rate produces a hole that is a nice press fit on the tetrix motor.

DinerKid 04-03-2011 06:39

Re: Minibot Motor Press Fit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryS (Post 1034423)
Are these legal minibot materials? Do they fall under "S. Mechanical fasteners"?

I would argue that the are indeed mechanical fasteners. However you could always just make them out of aluminium. McMaster provides drawings for their parts and sometimes even CAD which makes replicating them, whether it is to use a different material or to save some money, quite easy.

If you made them out of aluminium you could be totally sure that they were legal and you could modify the design a bit to mesh easily with the system you already want to work with. The nice thing about the "clamp on" is that you don't have to be as precise with your machining, press fits can be tricky, but with a clamp on collar you can be off by quite a bit more and make up for it by tightening the bolt a bit more.

You could easily adapt the idea of a clamp on collar to make a clamp on wheel...

~DK

boomergeek 04-03-2011 06:42

Re: Minibot Motor Press Fit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr V (Post 1034425)
We found that in aluminum a sharp 3/32" bit at the right feed rate produces a hole that is a nice press fit on the tetrix motor.

We found the same thing. It actually help if your lathe drill chuck is .002" off center. ;)

Since the shafts are long, we used the drill press as the press fit device (moving the bed into the chuck).

craigcd 04-03-2011 22:53

Re: Minibot Motor Press Fit
 
A simple way to modify the Tetrix gear box is to machine a bushing out of aluminum. Drill a hole the same size as the shaft thru the bushing and bore a hole slightly smaller than the O.D of the 25 tooth gear on the 25/10 gear on the bottom and a hole the slightly smaller on the top than the OD of the 10 tooth gear on the 26/10 gear and press the gears into the bushing. Press the gear into the bushing. This eliminates soldering and you should be able make as many as you want fairly quickly. Toss the 30/15 gear and happy miniboting.(is that a word?) By the way I found some very scary metal shavings in the gearboxes when I took them apart.

Chris is me 05-03-2011 00:00

Re: Minibot Motor Press Fit
 
We have no plans to use the minibot gearbox. Helical gears are efficiency robbers, and sub 50% efficiency is not something we can afford.


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