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kinganu123 05-03-2011 21:12

Weird Victor Problems
 
Ok, so our victors have been acting weirdly lately...
So, like all speed controllers, we have + & - from the PD board going to + & - V of the victor. From there, the + & - goes to the + & - of the motor. Now, whenever we change directions (haven't made notes yet as to which victors are which color), they go from green to red and then back when go to another direction.
Furthermore, when we put the bot on the floor, only one of the wheels move for strafing (it works perfectly on blocks). Any ideas what could be happening?

nighterfighter 05-03-2011 21:56

Re: Weird Victor Problems
 
Are you tripping a breaker on the PD block?

That's the only thing I can think of, if all the other wheels and motors are working perfectly on blocks.

DarrinMunter 05-03-2011 23:52

Re: Weird Victor Problems
 
Since they work on the blocks, to me it seams like software - the Victors are not getting the % of power needed when running on the floor (under more load)...But then I'm the electrical mentor - we always blame software....

One thing we've learned over the years is to always check the PWM cables.
I can not tell the troubles we have had with them.

DonRotolo 06-03-2011 13:59

Re: Weird Victor Problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kinganu123 (Post 1035158)
whenever we change directions they go from green to red and then back when go to another direction.

So you are saying that when you command a victor to full speed in one direction it is green, and when you command the victor to full speed in the other direction it is red?

If so, this is how they are supposed to work.::rtm::

As for not working on the ground, check the output voltage with a voltmeter while it is not working and post the results here. For both the non-working and working please.

kinganu123 07-03-2011 17:53

Re: Weird Victor Problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nighterfighter (Post 1035186)
Are you tripping a breaker on the PD block?

not sure wat you mean by that, but they have a 40 amp circut breaker on them

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munter2081 (Post 1035252)
Since they work on the blocks, to me it seams like software - the Victors are not getting the % of power needed when running on the floor (under more load)...But then I'm the electrical mentor - we always blame software....

One thing we've learned over the years is to always check the PWM cables.
I can not tell the troubles we have had with them.

It can't be software, because it can't tell under how much load the wheels are in (as far as I know)
And we can't check the PWM cables being that the robot is bagged and going to be crated and shipped to philly
Quote:

Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1035503)
So you are saying that when you command a victor to full speed in one direction it is green, and when you command the victor to full speed in the other direction it is red?

If so, this is how they are supposed to work.::rtm::

As for not working on the ground, check the output voltage with a voltmeter while it is not working and post the results here. For both the non-working and working please.

Well this didn't happen to us on our robot from last year
And we can't check the voltages being that the robot is bagged and going to be crated and shipped to philly. besides, how do we check voltage when the bot is moving?

DonRotolo 07-03-2011 18:48

Re: Weird Victor Problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kinganu123 (Post 1036061)
Well this didn't happen to us on our robot from last year

That may be so, but it IS the way they are supposed to work.
Quote:

Originally Posted by kinganu123 (Post 1036061)
besides, how do we check voltage when the bot is moving?

Um, maybe run alongside it and read the voltmeter while it's moving maybe? Or long test wires for the voltmeter? I can think of several more ways, as I am sure you can, too.

WizenedEE 08-03-2011 02:27

Re: Weird Victor Problems
 
Blocks > Long wires, electrocution, and decapitation.

The victors are really supposed to turn green? I've never used them, but that sounds a little wonky.

Al Skierkiewicz 08-03-2011 07:23

Re: Weird Victor Problems
 
From the IFI 884 User's Manual...

The LED indicator will be GREEN in
‘full-forward’ condition, RED in ‘full-reverse’ and
ORANGE while in neutral.
Flashing ORANGE indicator on power up. No PWM signal.

If you are not calibrating in software, then a simple calibration procedure will allow you to make full use of your joysticks. The Victor is capable of "learning" the full forward, full reverse, and rest positions of the joysticks. Once calibrated the above indicators will always show at the full extreme of your joysticks.

kinganu123 08-03-2011 18:57

Re: Weird Victor Problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WizenedEE (Post 1036390)
Blocks > Long wires, electrocution, and decapitation.

The victors are really supposed to turn green? I've never used them, but that sounds a little wonky.

they are supposed to turn green

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1036111)
That may be so, but it IS the way they are supposed to work.
Um, maybe run alongside it and read the voltmeter while it's moving maybe? Or long test wires for the voltmeter? I can think of several more ways, as I am sure you can, too.

got it, thanks :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz (Post 1036413)
From the IFI 884 User's Manual...

The LED indicator will be GREEN in
‘full-forward’ condition, RED in ‘full-reverse’ and
ORANGE while in neutral.
Flashing ORANGE indicator on power up. No PWM signal.

If you are not calibrating in software, then a simple calibration procedure will allow you to make full use of your joysticks. The Victor is capable of "learning" the full forward, full reverse, and rest positions of the joysticks. Once calibrated the above indicators will always show at the full extreme of your joysticks.

I didn't know that about the leds
and how would i go about in calibrating the victors?

Matt Krass 08-03-2011 19:07

Re: Weird Victor Problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kinganu123 (Post 1036662)
and how would i go about in calibrating the victors?

http://content.vexrobotics.com/docs/...al-9-25-06.pdf Page 2 of the manual describes the whole procedure.

Good luck!
Matt

Zachary Pilarsk 09-03-2011 07:48

Re: Weird Victor Problems
 
you also could be putting too much load on your wheels and need to change you gear ratio


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