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Mike Starke 05-03-2011 21:31
FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Hey all!
Well Week 1 Regionals are now over! There have been some excellent matches played this weekend! Hope you all had fun participating and watching the Regionals!

FRCTop25.com is now accepting submissions for your Top 25 teams in FRC through week one. Head on over to FRCTop25.com to make your picks! Please please please read the instructions and rules on the voting submission page (please remember you can't vote for teams who haven't played yet). You have until 9PM EST on Tuesday to cast your votes!

If you're unaware of what FRCTop25.com is, please refer to this thread! http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=92941

Thank you for all your support! Justin and I, as I'm sure the rest of you, look forward to seeing who you guys vote as the top robots through week one!

- Mike and Justin

Justin Montois 05-03-2011 22:05
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Woohoo! I cannot wait to start seeing the lists come in.

Just so there is no confusion, Each week will NOT be an isolated list of only that weeks teams. Once a team has competed, it can be included in your list from then on. IE in your week 2 list, teams that competed week 1 can still be included.

GGCO 06-03-2011 11:19
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Ok, this is a feature request.

Filling out 25 boxes is tedious and I can't even think of 25 teams that I like. How about allowing users to enter just 5 or something like that.

rees2001 06-03-2011 11:29
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GGCO (Post 1035401)
Ok, this is a feature request.

Filling out 25 boxes is tedious and I can't even think of 25 teams that I like. How about allowing users to enter just 5 or something like that.
Agreed, I would say to limit it to a top 10 list or 15 at most. I got through the first 10 and then didn't have enough info to make educatedish assessments on other teams.

BGiraud 06-03-2011 11:46
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1035396)
Here's mine.

My ranking is based solely off the numbers.
Total Points Scored in Qualifying Matches.

Proves the FIRST ranking algorithm is seriously flawed
especially this year
for BAE team 40 was ranked 12th...
had our team not hit the estop button, we would have been ranked 11th.
(we capped 2, maybe 3 tubes all competition)
absolutely crazy
we would have been ranked ahead of a team with a 2 tube autonomous!!!?????

The following form submission was sent.
1: = 33
2: = 40
3: = 131
4: = 148
5: = 1519
6: = 1918
7: = 836
8: = 2137
9: = 138
10: = 176
11: = 16
12: = 69
13: = 78
14: = 302
15: = 201
16: = 126
17: = 58
18: = 2337
19: = 894
20: = 3074
21: = 118
22: = 494
23: = 811
24: = 175
25: = 67
Mentor/Student = Mentor
ChiefDelphi_Username = lineskier
Yeh. I don't get it. Not a single team from the NJ regional? I am losing faith that I will put a lot of weight in these results.
I am not judging your opinion, but rather highlighting the difficulty involved in developing the system.

Adam Freeman 06-03-2011 11:52
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1035396)
25: = 67
Interesting a team that essentially sat still for 5 straight matches would even get a vote.

Its a great robot....when it moves.

Thank you.

Vikesrock 06-03-2011 12:00
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BGiraud (Post 1035412)
Yeh. I don't get it. Not a single team from the NJ regional? I am losing faith that I will put a lot of weight in these results.
I am not judging your opinion, but rather highlighting the difficulty involved in developing the system.
His vote was not based on opinion. He used statistics based on the final score of qualification matches to generate that list.

It's clear that the results of such a query at questionable at best. The 8th team on the list (the new one) did not make elims at Granite State and some of the great teams from New Jersey such as 2016 and 1676 didn't make the list at all.

I'm personally eager to see both the user and expert polls to see what everybody else thought of the robots that played this weekend.

Lil' Lavery 06-03-2011 12:08
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1035421)
:-D eek...

that's one thing about this years game, it seems there are only a few powerhouses, and they tend to define the matches they participate in.
The consequence of this: when you look solely at the numbers, some teams sneak in there.

Just proves the need for me to speed up the development of my match by match analysis, to find a team's estimated contribution to a single match. That way point inflation doesn't occur like it did here :).

I was happy with many of the teams on the top 25 so I chose to stick with it, knowing there would be some mistakes. Also I wanted to avoid any regional bias I had.

one question... did you sit still for 5 qualifying matches or were they other types?
my numbers are based solely off qualifying matches.
By not including a single team from the New Jersey regional? :rolleyes:

Adam Freeman 06-03-2011 12:33
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1035421)
one question... did you sit still for 5 qualifying matches or were they other types?
my numbers are based solely off qualifying matches.
Yes... 5 of our 6 Saturday morning matches resulted in limited or no robot operation. :(

When determining your top 25, I would suggest investigating the elimination matches also.

mwtidd 06-03-2011 12:35
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Freeman (Post 1035436)
Yes... 5 of our 6 Saturday morning matches resulted in limited or no robot operation. :(

When determining your top 25, I would suggest investigating the elimination matches also.
good call!

its interesting though, based solely off the qualifying matches, the top 9 all were finalists.
but they were truly in a league of their own.

my stat algorithms weren't intended for a top 25 kind of use. i just wanted to see how close they got to predicting finalists. obviously needs a little bit of work...

remulasce 06-03-2011 12:43
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 340x4xLife (Post 1035198)
Woohoo! I cannot wait to start seeing the lists come in.

Just so there is no confusion, Each week will NOT be an isolated list of only that weeks teams. Once a team has competed, it can be included in your list from then on. IE in your week 2 list, teams that competed week 1 can still be included.
I think this unfairly benefits early week competitors. Take, for example, a pretty good robot in week one. They obviously are better than the rest in week one, so are rated highly. In week two, they don't compete, but they still are better than average and thus are rated highly. By week six, they have gotten five weeks of good reviews, when another team shows up with a demigod as a robot, and their drivers have the force. They are ranked really highly, and the week one teams is ranked a lot lower now that people have seen the demigod, but the week one team has been ranked highly by more people, so in total rankings, they win.

TLDR; you can't keep the voting window open longer for some teams than other teams, and you can't vote until you see all the teams.

BGiraud 06-03-2011 12:58
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1035426)
teamnumber opoints/nummatches
217 84.0000
2056 79.3000
33 65.5000
1676 65.1111
1126 64.9000
148 63.6667
40 60.6000
131 58.0000
2016 58.0000
1218 56.6667
191 56.5000
1519 55.2000
156 54.1000
16 53.3333
836 52.8000
340 51.2000
138 50.2000
176 49.4000
2234 49.1111
3015 48.0000
69 47.9000
118 47.1111
78 47.1000
1918 45.9167
1089 45.5556
1923 45.2222
229 45.0000
1559 44.7000
126 44.0000
25 43.7778
WOW! 7 teams from NJ.
I agree about including elim matches. High seeds will get favor, but I guess it would be deserved. This would help out good teams in a regional with fewer good teams to support them in qualifying matches.

Mike Starke 06-03-2011 13:03
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
These are all great concerns! Thank you so much for all of your feedback! Please remember, we have a secret list of "experts" who will also be voting. So you can decide which list you think will be accurate; between the public poll and the expert poll. Our experts know that they need to go through each regional and spend a lot of time sorting through data and teams. On some of their submissions you will also see why they voted why they did. It's in my opinion that regional biases (the reason why no NJ teams made that one list) will get balanced out by the number of voters that we will have. Some one may heavily weight Alamo, while someone will heavily weight FLR. So i think it will be well rounded by the end. We have over 20 submissions so far, with just being open for about a day. We'll see how it goes.

And please remember, this is just for fun. :)

mwtidd 06-03-2011 13:29
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BGiraud (Post 1035453)
WOW! 7 teams from NJ.
I agree about including elim matches. High seeds will get favor, but I guess it would be deserved. This would help out good teams in a regional with fewer good teams to support them in qualifying matches.
you see major point inflation when you include the finals.
not sure which is better for a top 25...

theres one thing thats still for sure, 217 is a monster
#1 overall
#1 minibot
#2 robot (behind 148 )

this is including elims...

217 91.9375
2056 86.3750
148 85.1429
1676 79.9286
16 77.3571
2016 77.0000
33 73.6111
1126 72.7500
1519 68.2143
303 68.1538
40 67.3529
176 67.0000
340 66.4667
131 66.1765
25 61.5000
1923 61.3000
1518 60.8824
175 60.2000
2137 58.2778
191 58.0833
1918 56.3333
229 54.7692
118 54.6154
3074 53.9231
156 53.9000
138 53.8889
1218 53.3333
2228 53.2000
811 52.8462
69 52.3636

Justin Montois 06-03-2011 13:41
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
I'm going to echo what Mike said in that this is just for fun! Are some people going to vote based on little to no knowledge? Yes. Are people going to disagree with the eventual week 1 top 25? Yes. Just try to have fun with this and if you want to disagree with someone's list then feel free to submit your own list.

We fully expected this and will enjoy reading the discussion.

Also, if you feel as though you don't have enough knowledge to fill out 25 teams out of the over 200 teams that competed week 1 then your more then welcome to either do some more research to become more informed (looking at OPR would be a great place to start) or you could hold off and vote next week.

Thank you all for your feedback and participation.

BGiraud 06-03-2011 13:56
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1035477)
you see major point inflation when you include the finals.
not sure which is better for a top 25...

theres one thing thats still for sure, 217 is a monster

this is including elims...

217 91.9375
2056 86.3750
148 85.1429
1676 79.9286
16 77.3571
2016 77.0000
33 73.6111
1126 72.7500
1519 68.2143
303 68.1538
40 67.3529
176 67.0000
340 66.4667
131 66.1765
25 61.5000
1923 61.3000
1518 60.8824
175 60.2000
2137 58.2778
191 58.0833
1918 56.3333
229 54.7692
118 54.6154
3074 53.9231
156 53.9000
138 53.8889
1218 53.3333
2228 53.2000
811 52.8462
69 52.3636
Yes. There is an issue with including elims. The second alliance pick. As an example, 303 was a good enough scorer, but we (1676/2016/303) used them as a defender and they jumped from off the list to 10th on the list due to the alliance score in elims. Not really in the spirit of what you are trying to accomplish with this list.
There is value in what you are doing with this data. Thank you for sharing. I am not the kind of guy to do the full research on 25+ teams to submit a fully proper entry, but using your analysis as a starting point I may feel confident enough to submit an entry. Maybe after I see data for week 2 as well.

Chris is me 06-03-2011 14:07
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Freeman (Post 1035416)
Interesting a team that essentially sat still for 5 straight matches would even get a vote.

Its a great robot....when it moves.

Thank you.
Well, I only saw the eliminations at Kettering...

mwtidd 06-03-2011 14:09
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BGiraud (Post 1035500)
Yes. There is an issue with including elims. The second alliance pick. As an example, 303 was a good enough scorer, but we (1676/2016/303) used them as a defender and they jumped from off the list to 10th on the list due to the alliance score in elims. Not really in the spirit of what you are trying to accomplish with this list.
Exactly :).

Its just nice to see the evidence that elim rounds should not be used when evaluating teams stats as they are not a reflection of the team but the alliance. Also once I start calculating a teams contribution in each match, the best teams will really rise to the top, more so than they already have.

Again I only view my #1 pick as a ranked pick. Simply because 217 killed it in week 1, I can comfortably say they were the best. Everyone else should be looked at as a top 25 team, but not as #6 or #9...

It will be interesting to see how teams' second regionals go. I'm personally looking out for team 40 and 33, as they are the only teams i know of going for the double autonomous, with a reasonable chance of doing it.

Chris is me 06-03-2011 14:11
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I think using purely statistics to rank teams is kind of defeating the whole purpose of the website and polling. Just saying...

mwtidd 06-03-2011 14:18
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1035509)
I think using purely statistics to rank teams is kind of defeating the whole purpose of the website and polling. Just saying...
Actually I agree...
But I am only one person, and I know people's opinions of robots will obviously rise to the top. I think numbers are a good place to start, and then based on that people should actually watch match videos and such. Unfortunately right now, most people can only vote based off the one or 2 regionals they watched in week 1. I'm simply trying to provide a basis for powerhouses that should be looked at :).

BGiraud 06-03-2011 14:28
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1035508)
Exactly :).

Its just nice to see the evidence that elim rounds should not be used when evaluating teams stats as they are not a reflection of the team but the alliance. Also once I start calculating a teams contribution in each match, the best teams will really rise to the top, more so than they already have.

Again I only view my #1 pick as a ranked pick. Simply because 217 killed it in week 1, I can comfortably say they were the best. Everyone else should be looked at as a top 25 team, but not as #6 or #9...
I think there is value in the elims data to see what a good team can really do when put with other good teams, but not for the round 2 picks if that is possible. There was inflation, but also compression of the spread. That shows that the separation of the better teams might not be so much when playing at higher levels and team play is key.

mwtidd 06-03-2011 14:38
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BGiraud (Post 1035525)
I think there is value in the elims data to see what a good team can really do when put with other good teams, but not for the round 2 picks if that is possible. There was inflation, but also compression of the spread. That shows that the separation of the better teams might not be so much when playing at higher levels and team play is key.
Unfortunately, for me there's no easy way to do this. As a twitter post comes in, I update a running sum for a given team. Unfortunately the alliance selection is not posted to twitter. Maybe something they could add to the twitter feed next year. I'm still trying to get autonomous added to it too.

If they ordered the teams on the twitter feed based on alliance selections, then I could do this, however that is not the case this year.

nikeairmancurry 06-03-2011 15:06
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1035508)

It will be interesting to see how teams' second regionals go. I'm personally looking out for team 40 and 33, as they are the only teams i know of going for the double autonomous, with a reasonable chance of doing it.
There are two other teams that pulled of a double autonomous... 326 and 148... and I wouldn't be surpised to see 1114, 111, 330 or 254 having one either..

mwtidd 06-03-2011 18:20
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry (Post 1035546)
There are two other teams that pulled of a double autonomous... 326 and 148... and I wouldn't be surpised to see 1114, 111, 330 or 254 having one either..
Awesome! Yeah I don't think the limit factor on a double autonomous is programming, its actually fairly simple to code it up given the right sensors.

The limiting factor is having a very well designed robot. This is why I've always shot for the design requirement "Design for autonomous"... because if it can meet the goals of autonomous, its probably simple enough for the drivers to use quite well.

It's awesome to hear that so many of top 25 teams are getting there based on focusing on building great tube hangers, rather than great minibots. Also it seems teams who chose not to pick up from the field (my team included) made a huge mistake. Is anyone aware of a top 25 team that can't pick up off the floor?

nikeairmancurry 06-03-2011 20:39
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1035670)
Awesome! Yeah I don't think the limit factor on a double autonomous is programming, its actually fairly simple to code it up given the right sensors.

The limiting factor is having a very well designed robot. This is why I've always shot for the design requirement "Design for autonomous"... because if it can meet the goals of autonomous, its probably simple enough for the drivers to use quite well.

It's awesome to hear that so many of top 25 teams are getting there based on focusing on building great tube hangers, rather than great minibots. Also it seems teams who chose not to pick up from the field (my team included) made a huge mistake. Is anyone aware of a top 25 team that can't pick up off the floor?
From the week one regionals, if you couldn't pick up from the floor you were probably a runner and a late third pick during selection... Plus with so many tubes on the ground, I don't see you wouldn't... If I was on your team, I would consider changing to one if possible...

V_Chip 06-03-2011 20:47
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1035670)
Awesome! Yeah I don't think the limit factor on a double autonomous is programming, its actually fairly simple to code it up given the right sensors.

The limiting factor is having a very well designed robot. This is why I've always shot for the design requirement "Design for autonomous"... because if it can meet the goals of autonomous, its probably simple enough for the drivers to use quite well.

It's awesome to hear that so many of top 25 teams are getting there based on focusing on building great tube hangers, rather than great minibots. Also it seems teams who chose not to pick up from the field (my team included) made a huge mistake. Is anyone aware of a top 25 team that can't pick up off the floor?
From what I saw, HYPER 69 was unable to pick up from the floor or preferred to obtain tubes from the feeder station.

Buzz Robotics 175 is able to pick up from the floor but prefers to be fed as well. We did not use the "flipper" at all during the competition.

We found it more effective to keep the floor clear of tubes in order to negate the opposing alliance from stealing the tubes we threw out.

mwtidd 06-03-2011 20:51
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry (Post 1035762)
From the week one regionals, if you couldn't pick up from the floor you were probably a runner and a late third pick during selection... Plus with so many tubes on the ground, I don't see you wouldn't... If I was on your team, I would consider changing to one if possible...
Yeah, our seasons over. Honestly one of our many poor design decisions. We live and learn. For me it was a great year to test my autonomous structure and made a lot of forward progress. I also now have a long list of requirements for my code structure.

Now its time for me to work on my ranking algorithm, its okay but could be a lot better :)

mwtidd 06-03-2011 20:57
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vector MycroftH (Post 1035770)
From what I saw, HYPER 69 was unable to pick up from the floor or preferred to obtain tubes from the feeder station.

Buzz Robotics 175 is able to pick up from the floor but prefers to be fed as well. We did not use the "flipper" at all during the competition.

We found it more effective to keep the floor clear of tubes in order to negate the opposing alliance from stealing the tubes we threw out.
yeah I'm thinking this was a big difference between BAE and the other competitions. Unfortunately i think the teams were weaker at BAE this year than some of the other regionals. Also the BAE strategy seemed a lot different from the other locations too.

Just for example, the best BAE teams averaged around 60, where as 217 averaged 85 points per qualifying match and 2056 almost 80. Come the championship, if you want to play with the big boys, you'll have to be able to pick up off the floor, and have autonomous too.

nikeairmancurry 06-03-2011 21:12
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1035785)
yeah I'm thinking this was a big difference between BAE and the other competitions. Unfortunately i think the teams were weaker at BAE this year than some of the other regionals. Also the BAE strategy seemed a lot different from the other locations too.

Just for example, the best BAE teams averaged around 60, where as 217 averaged 85 points per qualifying match and 2056 almost 80. Come the championship, if you want to play with the big boys, you'll have to be able to pick up off the floor, and have autonomous too.
Your season is never over... I would continue to improve that robot and teach those on your team... Learning is what comes of a regional, plus it doesnt hurt to have something working for an offseason event... Use that robot as a great tool for the 2012 season...

V_Chip 06-03-2011 21:15
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The average may have differed greatly but there are different ways this data may be perceived. It could mean that the teams were "weaker" or that they were better balanced with respect to one another.

Like you stated, the strategies at the regionals varied and the presence of tubes from both alliances in a central location compared to that of playing conservatively will result in different results.

There is a thread about the highest score that refers to 148 and their partners scoring 135, but the opposing alliance with only a mere 8. Compare that to the first finals match at GSR with 117 over 82 and you see more of a balance. What were some of the finals scores at FLR,Alamo, NJ, and Kettering? I'd like to see some of the results.

nikeairmancurry 06-03-2011 21:20
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quarter Final 1, Match 1 (1 vs 8) at kettering... ended 114-79

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOzqN...eature=related

probably the best two alliances in that elims...

mwtidd 06-03-2011 21:26
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vector MycroftH (Post 1035791)
The average may have differed greatly but there are different ways this data may be perceived. It could mean that the teams were "weaker" or that they were better balanced with respect to one another.

Like you stated, the strategies at the regionals varied and the presence of tubes from both alliances in a central location compared to that of playing conservatively will result in different results.

There is a thread about the highest score that refers to 148 and their partners scoring 135, but the opposing alliance with only a mere 8. Compare that to the first finals match at GSR with 117 over 82 and you see more of a balance. What were some of the finals scores at FLR,Alamo, NJ, and Kettering? I'd like to see some of the results.
the top NJ score:

red score:124 blue score:22 red :1860 25 1923 blue: 1089 1647 102 red mini:50 blue mini: 0

top alamo:

red score:135 bluescore: 37 red: 3481 16 148 blue: 57 2848 245 red mini:50 blue mini:25

kettering
red score:114 blue score:79 red: 2137 33 1 blue: 326 67 3322 red mini:50 blue mini:15

Tristan Lall 06-03-2011 22:24
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Top teams, or top robots? You mention both in the opening post.

BGiraud 07-03-2011 11:46
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1035798)
the top NJ score:

red score:124 blue score:22 red :1860 25 1923 blue: 1089 1647 102 red mini:50 blue mini: 0
The other top NJ score
red score:124 blue score:36 red :2016 1676 303 blue: 1302 2180 816

The Lucas 07-03-2011 17:13
Re: FRCTop25.com- Submit Your Picks for Week 1!
 
Since everyone is talking about avg qualification score, I figured I would post Top 30 OPR. I made this using version 13 on each regional and compiling it using Excel (while Bongle is working on a new version for this year).
Code:
Rank        Team        OPR        Event
1        33        56.7075        GG
2        148        56.5229        STX
3        217        54.4144        ROC
4        2056        52.7503        ROC
5        1676        46.3775        NJ
6        2016        45.5644        NJ
7        1218        45.5229        NJ
8        1126        43.2325        ROC
9        1519        40.1307        NH
10        131        38.6893        NH
11        16        38.4332        STX
12        40        34.7814        NH
13        836        34.2788        NH
14        118        33.748        STX
15        1918        32.5715        GT
16        25        32.5498        NJ
17        229        32.3928        ROC
18        191        31.3583        ROC
19        1429        30.0761        STX
20        2848        29.419        STX
21        1089        28.689        NJ
22        2587        28.6853        STX
23        2137        28.6095        GG
24        1923        28.4289        NJ
25        245        28.249        STX
26        340        27.9883        ROC
27        69        27.961        NH
28        138        25.7975        NH
29        3074        25.7734        NH
30        2590        25.4736        NJ
OPR seems to be a good stat this year. Even though it only looks at qualification data, the team with the highest OPR won every event. Even this even applies to NH, where 1519 had the highest OPR, was picked 3rd overall and won. Keep in mind that OPR doesn't have any way to connect between regionals, since no inter-regional matches are played.


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