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MathFreak 07-03-2011 20:15

Which teams are winning?
 
Which teams are strong/winning on week 1?

Brian Ha 07-03-2011 20:27

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
#33 Killer Bees
#2137 Torc
#3536 Electro Eagles

Very high placed and well accomplished teams at kettering.

"Note #3536 is a rookie team and got 2nd seed at kettering.

flippy147852 07-03-2011 20:35

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
16 and 148 did phenomenal at Alamo, from what I've heard

217 was BEAST at Finger Lakes.

hektormagee 07-03-2011 20:36

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
-Those previously noted
-217 Thunderchickens
-148 Robowranglers
-67 The HOT Team (When their coms don't die)
-201 The FEDS

Some honorable mentions include, but aren't limited to:
-2337 (Very nice mini bot)
-27 (Also good mini bot)
-302
and many more

stundt1 07-03-2011 20:47

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
check out team 2056 they were undefeated in the qualifiers

BrendanB 07-03-2011 21:37

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
Team 40 was hot in Manchester scoring 3 logos on their own and having a 1.5 sec minibot as well! They also are close to perfecting their 2 ubertube auto as well so I'm very jealous I'm not attending Connecticut!

Teams 1519, 176, 131, 78, and 175 did very well at BAE!

flyingcrayons 07-03-2011 21:41

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
from jersey 2016, 1676, 1647, 25, 1089, 1923, 2590 i thought did extremely well. all of them are going to perform well at their future events. 2016 has an absolutely incredible minibot, and 1676's drivers are fantastic (i know them ;))

HarveyAce 07-03-2011 21:50

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
Team 811 also did very well at BAE. My team, although half a country away, owes them more than they know! Thanks team 811!

Chris is me 07-03-2011 23:20

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
Are we just going to list every team that won an event this week?

Alex Dinsmoor 07-03-2011 23:22

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1036327)
Are we just going to list every team that won an event this week?

Actually a lot of the teams mentioned didn't win an event.

Though there are many mentioned who did...

Justin Montois 08-03-2011 00:26

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1036327)
Are we just going to list every team that won an event this week?


cmass 08-03-2011 00:50

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
Is there any correlation between drive type and success?
- are good mechanums scoring like crazy and repositioning tubes as expected?
- are drop centers having any trouble with fine positioning in the scoring lanes?

Is there any correlation between arm types and success?
- I saw the Alamo final on 16's website, they have a telescoping tower, their partner had a four-bar articulating arm. Both seemed to score at will.
- 33 has a telescoping tower

I am a little surprised that there is not more hoarding of thrown game pieces in the matches I have seen. People seem to be playing the game straight up.

Anyone who thought the game was going to be played end-to-end with few pieces on the ground sure had it wrong.

Alex Dinsmoor 08-03-2011 00:58

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmass (Post 1036365)
Is there any correlation between drive type and success?
- are good mechanums scoring like crazy and repositioning tubes as expected?
- are drop centers having any trouble with fine positioning in the scoring lanes?

Is there any correlation between arm types and success?
- I saw the Alamo final on 16's website, they have a telescoping tower, their partner had a four-bar articulating arm. Both seemed to score at will.
- 33 has a telescoping tower

I am a little surprised that there is not more hoarding of thrown game pieces in the matches I have seen. People seem to be playing the game straight up.

Anyone who thought the game was going to be played end-to-end with few pieces on the ground sure had it wrong.

Looking at just Traverse (and a few other key robots), drivetrains can be of use to a robot, but they certainly don't make or break one. Most of the top robots at TC all had a 6wd with either drop center, or omni wheels. The only time mech drive systems were useful were in positioning for the minibot deployment.

Of course, a good crab or swerve drive did help many teams do very well (as always).

For arms, it seems like a telescoping tower is fast, but certainly not the only winning robot out there. I observed many teams with either a single or double jointed arm do really well. In fact, besides 1918, the best scorers at TC were single jointed arms. (2000 comes to mind)
It all comes down to speed of hanging, and not the arm type.

As for hoarding of game pieces, we found that during eliminations, in order to keep our opponents from scoring it was a good idea to have a robot who would herd tubes towards our side of the field. If a robot can do this effectively, the top scores for that alliance will certainly be higher.
Floor loading is also an extremely valuable feature.

Ian Curtis 08-03-2011 01:16

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MathFreak (Post 1036179)
Which teams are strong/winning on week 1?

148 scored as many points in two robo-minutes as the bottom 75% of Alamo did in 1.5 robo-hours. I know they aren't the type to brag... but if that isn't impressive I don't know what is. 217, 2056, and 33 had similarly ridiculous (50+) OPRs. NJ's 1676, 2016 and 1218 were huddled about 45, and 1519 just broke 40.

(By OPR it took the bottom 46 robots one match to score as many points as 148.)

The mathematical definition of OPR can be found here, in layman's terms it attempts to solve for the number of points scored by each robot during a match by solving a system of equations of which teams played with which and how many points got scored. It is a rough approximation of how many points a robot scored during its average qualifying match.

Paul Copioli 08-03-2011 06:30

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
Competing at Finger Lakes I can tell you that 2056 is the BEAST, not us. Their auton was more consistent than ours as it hit every time (except one match when they turned it off due to a blown Jag in their roller claw) and their mini-bot deployment was more consistent than ours.

We both had a pretty easy schedule, but the only reason our OPR is higher is due to the fact that we had 2 matches with ridiculously good alliances. Granted, one of them was with 2056 but the other was with 1126 and 340.

2056 is extremely top tier this year and their robot is a work of art.

Oh, and 1126 and 340 are the real deal this year.

pandamonium 08-03-2011 11:37

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
The teams that finished the robot early and had time for driver practice and autonomous modes.

Jeff Waegelin 08-03-2011 13:32

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pandamonium (Post 1036494)
The teams that finished the robot early and had time for driver practice and autonomous modes.

I think this is about as close to a universal truth as you will find in FRC. The teams that have the most time to practice and program will always be the ones coming out the gate the strongest.

BGiraud 08-03-2011 14:24

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
From NJ, 2016 was the beast and the team to beat. They had some bad luck that would push down their OPR. We had a good bot with great drivers. They had a great bot with good & improving drivers. Watch out for them moving forward.

Kims Robot 08-03-2011 18:12

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
From FLR, our top teams were: 2056, 217, 1126, 340, 191 & 229.
I believe they were all Floor Collectors that could reach the top, and had rather consistent auto modes, the first four had very good minibots(& deployers) as well.

rcmolloy 08-03-2011 18:17

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingcrayons (Post 1036259)
from jersey 2016, 1676, 1647, 25, 1089, 1923, 2590 i thought did extremely well. all of them are going to perform well at their future events. 2016 has an absolutely incredible minibot, and 1676's drivers are fantastic (i know them ;))

I really wouldn't consider us winning because our minibot was the only thing that really brought us to the Finals.Our scoring was mediocre and really needs some adjustments mechanically. With that said, our claw will be undergoing surgery for Philly. By then, we will probably be winning.

NJ Winning Teams

2016, 25, & 1676

Lil' Lavery 08-03-2011 18:47

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmass (Post 1036365)
Anyone who thought the game was going to be played end-to-end with few pieces on the ground sure had it wrong.

...in week one.:rolleyes:

maltz1881 08-03-2011 18:54

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
Our team started/mentored the rookie team 3536. When I first met the mentor I knew they would go far. I never expected them to go that far the 1st time up to bat!! :eek:
The Bees hung 2 uber tubes in autonomous....pretty impressive!!! Their mini is cute!

Chris is me 08-03-2011 19:17

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1036659)
...in week one.:rolleyes:

Exactly.

While occasional tube throwing is a smart decision to get a quick, high, score, tube starvation is a strategy that can be accomplished with the right supporting robots.

We will be throwing in week 2, very sparingly, but we will be instructing partners to capitalize on tubes thrown by opponents and to try and corral tubes into our scoring zone.

Norman J 08-03-2011 19:36

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I did notice during week one the filling of the field with tubes was sometimes detrimental to the throwing team. I remember one specific instance where we were missing a square tube when an opposing human player very helpfully messed up a throw and delivered one to us, allowing us to complete a logo.

Grim Tuesday 08-03-2011 20:20

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Copioli (Post 1036401)
Competing at Finger Lakes I can tell you that 2056 is the BEAST, not us. Their auton was more consistent than ours as it hit every time (except one match when they turned it off due to a blown Jag in their roller claw) and their mini-bot deployment was more consistent than ours.

We both had a pretty easy schedule, but the only reason our OPR is higher is due to the fact that we had 2 matches with ridiculously good alliances. Granted, one of them was with 2056 but the other was with 1126 and 340.

2056 is extremely top tier this year and their robot is a work of art.

Oh, and 1126 and 340 are the real deal this year.

Beat me to it. 1126 and 340 put up some of the best competition to a ridiculously good alliance (2056 and 217) than I have seen in a long while. Plus 340 got chairmans, so they can come to champs.

KStout#3536 11-03-2011 19:58

Re: Which teams are winning?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Ha (Post 1036188)
#33 Killer Bees
#2137 Torc
#3536 Electro Eagles

Very high placed and well accomplished teams at kettering.

"Note #3536 is a rookie team and got 2nd seed at kettering.

just wanna say thanks for noticing us as a rookie team, we put our heart and soul into our first year robot and it paid off in the long run. we had no idea what we were getting into, then when we walked through those doors at kettering and saw robots being pulled around on carts, team members walking around in battle suits maid of other teams buttons, and everyone willing to give a helping hand we instantly got sucked in. thanks for all the support all you other teams have given us, we wont forget it. oh and a little shout out to team #1322, we wouldnt have made it anywhere close to where we did without you guys.


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