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Taylor 10-03-2011 21:03

Re: Will we see a wall robot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AmoryG (Post 1037661)
If you call 3553's robot a wall ...

I'd be inclined to call it more of a speedbump.

Seriously, it is a very cool design; I hope they are well utilized in eliminations.

mwtidd 10-03-2011 21:13

Re: Will we see a wall robot?
 
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Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 1037655)
It's doubtful we'll see a wallbot.

This is also regarding the view, if you used a net, I think it would still be legal, so long as it didn't obstruct the view.

Akash Rastogi 10-03-2011 21:42

Re: Will we see a wall robot?
 
Funny, I just consider us a nuisance :)

rcmolloy 10-03-2011 21:50

Re: Will we see a wall robot?
 
Akash,

I'd never pick you. <3

IFB662 10-03-2011 22:01

Re: Will we see a wall robot?
 
There is a wall bot so to say out here in kansas city. they are a rookie team sadly we have only played about 15 practice matches here so i never saw them play a match.

Andrew Schreiber 10-03-2011 23:11

Re: Will we see a wall robot?
 
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Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1037679)
Funny, I just consider us a nuisance :)

I'm glad we agree about what you are Akash;)

swamp_child 11-03-2011 00:25

Re: Will we see a wall robot?
 
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Originally Posted by MattC9 (Post 1037647)
If they get mini-bot deployment up and running, they might be the first rookies to see Einstein since 1902.
my .02$

1902 was on einstein in 2007, the year after they were rookies...

Alpha Beta 11-03-2011 00:29

Re: Will we see a wall robot?
 
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Originally Posted by IFB662 (Post 1037687)
There is a wall bot so to say out here in kansas city. they are a rookie team sadly we have only played about 15 practice matches here so i never saw them play a match.

UpNext, Team 3528. They can be seen on YouTube here.

Akash Rastogi 11-03-2011 00:37

Re: Will we see a wall robot?
 
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Originally Posted by Alpha Beta (Post 1037751)
UpNext, Team 3528. They can be seen on YouTube here.

Hehe, this design with mecanums has it's pros and cons. Too many cons for my taste though.

Aren Siekmeier 11-03-2011 01:32

Re: Will we see a wall robot?
 
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Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1037752)
Hehe, this design with mecanums has it's pros and cons. Too many cons for my taste though.

It actually looks to be a holonomic drive base with 8" omni wheels (AM trick wheels?) at 90 degrees (no big difference). It also looks the wheels on the extensions are omnis as well, especially because of their ability to translate in any direction with them deployed (plus the wheels themselves being able to lift off the ground). There are a lot of intricacies that seem to make it work well, as well some driving skill :) . Although it is going against another mecanum bot which probably can't push as well, so it'd be interesting to see how this fared against traction wheels.

MagiChau 11-03-2011 06:43

Re: Will we see a wall robot?
 
Lets see how they do at Greater Kansas then today and tomorrow. I am pinning hope on Dragonfly to show how critical defense is in Week 2 as well as all weeks.

pwnageNick 11-03-2011 08:34

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3528's going to get pushed out of the way. The increased length of their drive train makes the leverage a pushing team would have on them better. With the omni-ish drive they have going on, they're going to to get spun out of the way I think. They need more traction on the ground for this to work. 3553's robot seems to have more traction on their drive train. 8 friction wheels should do the job as long as those outside wheels stay against the ground and don't come up. They probably have too much friction to turn at that point actually, although if they wait to fold out their sides until they're in position, then they really wouldn't have to turn. And actually once they were in that position they would even be lined up with the poles for the minibot, they could just have their minibot attached to their fold out sides.

All in all I think 3553's design could be a huge 3rd alliance partner to any alliance that has 2 good scoring robots. Imagine them on the alliance at alamo with 16 and 148, although 3553 cant score an ubertube, it wouldn't matter because 148 would score it for them. Then 16 and 148 would score like crazy like they did while 3553 held the other alliance to 0 points. I think Einstein's going to be exciting this year :)

However, this is just my 2 cents.

thefro526 11-03-2011 08:34

Re: Will we see a wall robot?
 
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Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1037752)
Hehe, this design with mecanums has it's pros and cons. Too many cons for my taste though.

I'm with you Stogz.

After watching that video, I'm fairly certain that any team with either a 6-Motor, or 2-speed Traction Drive should be able to push 3528 - especially if there is some momentum behind the hit.

mwtidd 11-03-2011 08:54

Re: Will we see a wall robot?
 
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Originally Posted by thefro526 (Post 1037792)
I'm with you Stogz.

After watching that video, I'm fairly certain that any team with either a 6-Motor, or 2-speed Traction Drive should be able to push 3528 - especially if there is some momentum behind the hit.

Yeah, I'm surprised that no teams are just laying down on the endzone line. I feel that laying down in front of the pegs with the most ubertubes would be more disrupting than trying to block both towers. Also you wouldn't have to worry about incurring pentalties as if they pushed you into the endzone, no penalty would occur. and if they pushed you in there, I don't see any rule that you have to make an effort to leave. So if you laid down on the ground and got pushed into the endzone, you very well could be in a better position that previously allowed.

Vikesrock 11-03-2011 09:13

Re: Will we see a wall robot?
 
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Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1037802)
Yeah, I'm surprised that no teams are just laying down on the endzone line. I feel that laying down in front of the pegs with the most ubertubes would be more disrupting than trying to block both towers. Also you wouldn't have to worry about incurring pentalties as if they pushed you into the endzone, no penalty would occur. and if they pushed you in there, I don't see any rule that you have to make an effort to leave. So if you laid down on the ground and got pushed into the endzone, you very well could be in a better position that previously allowed.

Please reread the latest version of the Game section of the manual. This is an inaccurate description of the current state of the rules regarding the opponent's zone and/or lane.


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