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bhoffman11 10-03-2011 18:50

Any human player stategies?
 
I am the human player for FIRST Team 302 and I was looking around for some useful stategies to use. Is anybody using gloves to help grip the tubes while throwing? If so, what kind? (biking, shop, etc.). Any thowing ideas/ techniques? Thank you for your ideas!

flippy147852 10-03-2011 19:37

Re: Any human player stategies?
 
I have found that the most effective way to throw the tubes (by careful observation of the better human players from the stands) is to throw the tube overhead and perpendicular to the ground. Doing this, our human player can throw them into our safe zone.

HarveyAce 10-03-2011 20:05

Re: Any human player stategies?
 
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Originally Posted by flippy147852 (Post 1037621)
I have found that the most effective way to throw the tubes (by careful observation of the better human players from the stands) is to throw the tube overhead and perpendicular to the ground. Doing this, our human player can throw them into our safe zone.

Yeah, throwing the tubes tomahawk style seems to be the best idea for range and accuracy. otherwise the tubes go all over the place and I've seen some bad penalties because the human players were just throwing then helter-skelter.

EricVanWyk 10-03-2011 20:06

Re: Any human player stategies?
 
There was one human player at the Alamo Regional that hit the scoring table with over half of his throws. This method is suboptimal.

PAR_WIG1350 10-03-2011 20:20

Re: Any human player stategies?
 
<T25> seems to be saying no gloves, but I'm not 100% sure.

XaulZan11 10-03-2011 22:22

Re: Any human player stategies?
 
Score on your opponents rack to break up their logos. I'm only half kidding and no idea if this is legal.

GaryVoshol 10-03-2011 22:53

Re: Any human player stategies?
 
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Originally Posted by PAR_WIG1350 (Post 1037644)
<T25> seems to be saying no gloves, but I'm not 100% sure.

Correct, that would be an item of equipment meant to give an competitive advantage, which is not allowed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 1037695)
Score on your opponents rack to break up their logos. I'm only half kidding and no idea if this is legal.

Totally illegal:
Quote:

<G39> ROBOTS and FEEDERS may not SCORE on their opponent's PEGS or descore their opponent‟s GAME PIECES, or interfere with their opponent‟s TOWERS. Violation: PENALTY plus RED CARD.

PAR_WIG1350 10-03-2011 23:10

Re: Any human player stategies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 1037695)
Score on your opponents rack to break up their logos. I'm only half kidding and no idea if this is legal.

Do not do this, you will get DQed

bhoffman11 11-03-2011 07:43

Re: Any human player stategies?
 
Well I hit the scorers table during a semifinal match! It was funny, its up on youtube even. I only did it once cuz the square was totally flat. Tomahawk style one handed seems to work for me the best though. I dont understand why everybody's throwing over head with two hands?:confused:



!GRIP IT AND RIP IT!

delsaner 11-03-2011 08:30

Re: Any human player stategies?
 
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Originally Posted by bhoffman11 (Post 1037777)
I dont understand why everybody's throwing over head with two hands?

Our human player throws two hands over his head, vertically. The intent is to have the square or circle roll to the our scoring rack, so we can just pick them up and score them without a mass amount of driving. Quick scoring.

racesick222 11-03-2011 08:37

Re: Any human player stategies?
 
I don't even see why you guys are throwing the tubes? Its giving your a opponent a chance to pick them up and score. Also it clutters up the field with tubes making it hard to drive plus there some penalty's you can get. Just feed the tubes through the slots. :o

Brandon Holley 11-03-2011 08:43

Re: Any human player stategies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by racesick222 (Post 1037793)
I don't even see why you guys are throwing the tubes? Its giving your a opponent a chance to pick them up and score. Also it clutters up the field with tubes making it hard to drive plus there some penalty's you can get. Just feed the tubes through the slots. :o

Oh how much you have to learn young Padawan.

;)

-Brando

bhoffman11 11-03-2011 08:44

Re: Any human player stategies?
 
I add rotation into my throw. I kind of whip it to add spin so it'll roll or bounce into the safe zone. It goes into the safe or warning zone 90% of the time! I even scored on the mid post too!:D
Kinda depends on personal preference and robot capabilities.

HarveyAce 11-03-2011 08:45

Re: Any human player stategies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by racesick222 (Post 1037793)
I don't even see why you guys are throwing the tubes? Its giving your a opponent a chance to pick them up and score. Also it clutters up the field with tubes making it hard to drive plus there some penalty's you can get. Just feed the tubes through the slots. :o

There are a surprising amount of teams that can't pick up off the floor. However, if you rely on the feeder lane, I push a tube into the lane, and you can no longer get to the slot. that has seemed to work surprisingly well in some of the regionals so far. plus, I'll take a 5-6 second throw, pick up tube, and score versus a 10-20 (a lot of times more than that!) second drive get tube from slot, try and maneuver back to your zone, hope no one is defending you, then try and score. I'd take the former any day.

racesick222 11-03-2011 08:49

Re: Any human player stategies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon Holley (Post 1037794)
Oh how much you have to learn young Padawan.

;)

-Brando

OK Brandon check this out wait for the last ten seconds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I52nJ5bJYkU


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