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Philip W. 16-03-2011 10:43
Re: Plastic Pneumatics Tanks / FRC1114
 
Pneuaire seems to have several websites selling their reservoir cartridges (www.smcpneumatics.com, www.coastpneumatics.com, www.poweraire.com; they share the same "online support" image and similar addresses). Their other websites indicate that the RC2.5x10 is actually ~30 cubic inches. But when 8 of these tanks requires 7 minutes to fill, the difference between 30 and 44 doesn't seem like much. =P

For their full product line and their current stock, check out here: http://www.coastpneumatics.com/searc...&key word=RC2

Lil' Lavery 16-03-2011 16:25
Re: Plastic Pneumatics Tanks / FRC1114
 
It looks like 1712 just found some breathing room. ;)

Teched3 16-03-2011 19:36
Re: Plastic Pneumatics Tanks / FRC1114
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by R3P0 (Post 1040571)
Team 33 graciously gifted 4 of them to us for our Robot "Pneuman". We will be adding 4 of these for 9 clippards.

weight .50 compared to .88 ( roughly from memory)
cu in 44 compared to 16

http://www.pneuaire.com/reca44cuin.html

We ordered the kewl standoffs for them too. I'll post pictures next week during our maintenance window.
I could be wrong, but the Clippard tank provided in the KOP is listed at 33 cu. in., making the plastic tank capacity about 25% greater. Anyone know for sure the weights of the plastic Pneuaire tank and the aluminum Clippard tank for comparison?:) :)

Just for additional consideration, in a long-term installation, I would prefer to use aluminum tanks. Plastic, over time, tends to creep and weaken, which should not be a problem on a FIRST robot.

R3P0 22-03-2011 18:49
Re: Plastic Pneumatics Tanks / FRC1114
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by R3P0 (Post 1040571)

http://www.pneuaire.com/reca44cuin.html

We ordered the kewl standoffs for them too. I'll post pictures next week during our maintenance window.
Dateline Okemos Hs. Robot Pneuman successfully survives iron lung transplant.

Successful Lung Transplant. Weight saved Priceless!

http://www.livingsystems.net/DSC00393.JPG
http://www.livingsystems.net/DSC00394.JPG

...Breathe the pressure! ~prodigy

Jim Wilks 28-03-2011 15:06
Re: Plastic Pneumatics Tanks / FRC1114
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Copioli (Post 1038726)
I called this company to try to place an order. They said that since I'm in Canada I had to pay by wire transfer rather than simply by credit card. Hardly the response I'd expected. Have these guys been living under a rock for the last decade or two???

R3P0 28-03-2011 15:12
Re: Plastic Pneumatics Tanks / FRC1114
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jgw (Post 1046496)
I called this company to try to place an order. They said that since I'm in Canada I had to pay by wire transfer rather than simply by credit card. Hardly the response I'd expected. Have these guys been living under a rock for the last decade or two???
Not sure as the ones we used were graciously "gifted" to us from Team 33. Maybe it's the daily conversion rate thing that makes them ask for a wire transfer I don't know.

Still their site is chock full of pneumatic goodies.

Karthik 28-03-2011 17:25
Re: Plastic Pneumatics Tanks / FRC1114
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jgw (Post 1046496)
I called this company to try to place an order. They said that since I'm in Canada I had to pay by wire transfer rather than simply by credit card. Hardly the response I'd expected. Have these guys been living under a rock for the last decade or two???
Jim,

That's very weird since I had no problem ordering ours. We paid with a Canadian credit card and had no issues. We did have the order shipped to our PO box in the US, but the shipping address shouldn't have any bearing on the payment method. Did you try ordering online?

Vince lau 28-03-2011 19:01
Re: Plastic Pneumatics Tanks / FRC1114
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by R3P0 (Post 1043918)
Dateline Okemos Hs. Robot Pneuman successfully survives iron lung transplant.

Successful Lung Transplant. Weight saved Priceless!

http://www.livingsystems.net/DSC00393.JPG
http://www.livingsystems.net/DSC00394.JPG

...Breathe the pressure! ~prodigy
where did you get the plastic board holding all your components?

Mike Betts 28-03-2011 19:07
Re: Plastic Pneumatics Tanks / FRC1114
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vince lau (Post 1046606)
where did you get the plastic board holding all your components?
It looks like perfed poly from AndyMark: http://www.andymark.com/ProductDetai...ctCode=am-0836

Tytus Gerrish 28-03-2011 19:09
Re: Plastic Pneumatics Tanks / FRC1114
 
plastic is great for holding pneumatic pressure, or transmitting hydraulic pressure as long as it's thick enough to contain it.

for example

RogerR 28-03-2011 23:36
Re: Plastic Pneumatics Tanks / FRC1114
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tytus Gerrish (Post 1046609)
plastic is great for holding pneumatic pressure, or transmitting hydraulic pressure as long as it's thick enough to contain it.

for example
Tytus,

I'm now living in Kentucky, but whenever you post pictures of your creations, I sometimes wonder if I've moved far enough, or need to keep heading north...

Jim Wilks 28-03-2011 23:56
Re: Plastic Pneumatics Tanks / FRC1114
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Karthik (Post 1046560)
Jim,

That's very weird since I had no problem ordering ours. We paid with a Canadian credit card and had no issues. We did have the order shipped to our PO box in the US, but the shipping address shouldn't have any bearing on the payment method. Did you try ordering online?
Karthik:

I called them today as I was hoping to have them express shipped in time for GTR this weekend. That's when I was told they didn't take Canadian credit cards.

I did place an online order just now using my credit card and it seems to have gone through just fine. The only shipping available online was UPS Standard, so I guess getting them in time for Championships is better than not at all.

Thanks for your insight.

Jim

Tom Line 29-03-2011 00:02
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Jim,

If you need a couple for this weekend to make weight, I live 20 minutes from Port Huron and have two our team can part with.

R3P0 29-03-2011 07:09
Re: Plastic Pneumatics Tanks / FRC1114
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tytus Gerrish (Post 1046609)
plastic is great for holding pneumatic pressure, or transmitting hydraulic pressure as long as it's thick enough to contain it.

for example
There is only one question flame thrower vs fire extinguisher

answer is here--->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTMcPXNreis

Tytus Gerrish 29-03-2011 17:24
Re: Plastic Pneumatics Tanks / FRC1114
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by R3P0 (Post 1046825)
There is only one question flame thrower vs fire extinguisher

answer is here--->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTMcPXNreis
well, that is about as fake as it gets!

a Co2 fire extinguisher is inappropriate for putting out burning fuel

a class B fire extinguisher would be needed like halon or foam.
Co2 can only be effective if you can completely smother the flames long enough for the fuel to cool below its flashpoint, otherwise it would just start up again.

furthermore a cloud of c02 gas won't stop a stream of flammable liquid as is suggested by that video.

don't try this at home kids.


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