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clayman 13-03-2011 23:18

Most successful claw design?
 
I was wondering what all of you think are the most successful claw designs so far, in general. Unfortunately due to some serious code issues that 3175 experienced, I wasn't able to watch many of the Waterford regional matches, and see what worked there. However, other regionals may have had more different designs. So, what do you think? What claw most easily got the tubes up?

Warlord 13-03-2011 23:21

Re: Most successful claw design?
 
Those roller-claws seem to be the best and most popular so far.

Basel A 13-03-2011 23:29

Re: Most successful claw design?
 
In picking up tubes, it's fairly clear that roller claws are the most successful, especially when wide and near to the ground. For scoring, I can't say one specific type was especially impressive, though inside-tube manipulators and a few others (mainly those that hold tubes perpendicular to the ground) seemed generally successful.

BJT 13-03-2011 23:30

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The rollers look like they have the potential to be the best when done right. However, I saw at least one team this weekend that made a bad one and it pretty much killed them. in that case a simple claw would have served them better.

Akash Rastogi 13-03-2011 23:33

Re: Most successful claw design?
 
Pinch claw WITH rollers.

Colin P 14-03-2011 00:14

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Bionic Barons have the best I've seen in person. It's a REALLY wide roller claw. The big spatula rollers seem to be the best overall. Claws that ride parallel to and an inch above the ground have the best gathering capability.

Snappers, as I like to call them, are fast at picking up tubes, but slow to score. A robot with a jointed arm and a pinching action claw is what i'd call a snapper.

Rollers are a bit slower at collecting tubes, but are unmatched in scoring speed. Working rollers against one another to articulate tubes is probably the best design for a robot with a jointed arm.

Elevator robots with inside tube collectors are the other best design, but the two are hard to compare.

Nuttyman54 14-03-2011 00:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin P (Post 1039030)
Rollers are a bit slower at collecting tubes

I beg to differ: www.vimeo.com/20350475

Basel A 14-03-2011 00:17

Re: Most successful claw design?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin P (Post 1039030)
Bionic Barons have the best I've seen in person. It's a REALLY wide roller claw. The big spatula rollers seem to be the best overall. Claws that ride parallel to and an inch above the ground have the best gathering capability.

Snappers, as I like to call them, are fast at picking up tubes, but slow to score. A robot with a jointed arm and a pinching action claw is what i'd call a snapper.

Rollers are a bit slower at collecting tubes, but are unmatched in scoring speed. Working rollers against one another to articulate tubes is probably the best design for a robot with a jointed arm.

Elevator robots with inside tube collectors are the other best design, but the two are hard to compare.

What I liked about roller claw pickup was that teams could run into a tube, then immediately move backwards. No driver expertise needed.

What I liked about claw and inside tube scorers is that they don't affect the tube when they let go. Roller claws must spit a tube out, which can cause bounce and possible descoring. Grabbers can just let go.

That said, successful pickup and scoring is possible with any general design concept.

Vikesrock 14-03-2011 00:24

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Roller claws appear to be the best by far at tube acquisition. What seperates the good roller claws from the great ones is how to spit the tubes out. With the smaller foot and no "stinger" it is much tougher this year to keep the tube on the rack than it was in '07.

Many of the best roller claws appear to attack this issue by using a pneumatics to open the jaws and release the tube instead of rolling it out.

Wayne TenBrink 14-03-2011 00:47

Re: Most successful claw design?
 
There are a lot of good roller claws out there, but I submit our pincher for your consideration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qEr4...eature=related

(Note: The sticky minibot deployment shouldn't be an issue going forward)

davidthefat 14-03-2011 01:50

Re: Most successful claw design?
 
This


No, but seriously I think the rollers were the best. But the rollers with an extending arm was the best combo.

Basel A 14-03-2011 02:18

Re: Most successful claw design?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davidthefat (Post 1039096)
No, but seriously I think the rollers were the best. But the rollers with an extending arm was the best combo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 1039038)
Many of the best roller claws appear to attack this issue by using a pneumatics to open the jaws and release the tube instead of rolling it out.

It appears 2337 is better than I, or the seeding system, gave us credit for... :p

Brian Ha 14-03-2011 09:37

Re: Most successful claw design?
 
I think the best one was a wide spatula claw. It didnt look like they had rollers. Basically that had a top spatula claw that was pneumatically fired and had a botton hand that had four fingers made of lexan that grabbed the tubes. If you dont know who this is its 2137. Their hand worked very well and effictively. So yeah thought it was cool.

Owen Meaker 14-03-2011 10:41

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Our team has a pnumatic grabber, with the addition of an automated grabbing mode. So theoretically we would have the ease of use of a roller claw with the ease of placing of a normal grabber.

However, this is theoretical, and we all know the difference between theory and practice.

Koko Ed 14-03-2011 11:35

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We are perfectly happy with our claw design. Even without rollers.


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