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Aaron691 15-03-2011 23:09

Competition jobs
 
what are the different jobs that each team must have somebody for at the competitions?

Eagleeyedan 15-03-2011 23:12

Re: Competition jobs
 
Safety captain, driver, human player, drive coach, mechanical fixer-upper people. I forgot to mention a mentor or two!

Aaron691 15-03-2011 23:14

Re: Competition jobs
 
is there a runner that can go into the field area and the pit

Eagleeyedan 15-03-2011 23:16

Re: Competition jobs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron691 (Post 1040445)
is there a runner that can go into the field area and the pit

Well, after each match you can bring your robot back so there isn't really a need for one. During a match, noone is allowed to so I think the answer is no.

KrazyCarl92 15-03-2011 23:17

Re: Competition jobs
 
A "team captain" and "adult mentor" to sign certain paperwork for inspection, loaner parts, etc.

Aaron691 15-03-2011 23:18

Re: Competition jobs
 
no like when you are waiting to go on to the field and a bolt is lose or you lost a nut for a bolt

connor.worley 15-03-2011 23:20

Re: Competition jobs
 
Yes, people from the pits are allowed to wait with the drive team in queuing.

Eagleeyedan 15-03-2011 23:20

Re: Competition jobs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron691 (Post 1040451)
no like when you are waiting to go on to the field and a bolt is lose or you lost a nut for a bolt

If you are in the que, yes. If during qualification matches and you are already on the field, no. If you are in the elims, you can call one 6 minute time-out but I wouldn't waste that on a loose bolt but if there is something wrong that could affect the outcome of the match, it would be worth it.

Vikesrock 15-03-2011 23:21

Re: Competition jobs
 
Typical roles for a team at competition are:

There may be some overlap between these first three groups depending on team size
Drive Team - 2 drivers, coach (may be a mentor) and human player
Judge Ambassadors - someone should be in your pit at all times to talk to judges
Pit Crew - personnel to work on the robot between matches
Safety Captain - Likely one of the people in the above three groups because this person should be in the pits most of the time

Scouts/strategists - Watch matches and collect data on competing robots

A "runner" would normally be a member of the Drive Team or Pit Crew, this isn't really a frequent enough occurrence at regionals to need a separate person.

KrazyCarl92 15-03-2011 23:26

Re: Competition jobs
 
Our cart has a tool chest on it for that reason. Basically any tool we could conceivable need to use for a problem that could be fixed within 10 minutes is in the tool chest so that way it goes to the field with us just in case we need them. I try to get a picture up if I can find one!

rachelholladay 16-03-2011 00:23

Re: Competition jobs
 
Driver Team with backups
Chairmans Presenting Team
Safety Captain
Strategists with a team of scouts
Battery Boy/Girl
Pit Boss who makes sure there is always someone in the pit to talk to judges
Ambassadors
Spirit People in the stands

alectronic 16-03-2011 00:34

Re: Competition jobs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by connor.worley (Post 1040452)
Yes, people from the pits are allowed to wait with the drive team in queuing.

Sometimes. I would recommend that the drive team have basic mechanical abilities to do those quick little fixes. Some regionals do allow people in queue, but many do not, because they would not have drive team badges (which queuers often check for.)

Aaron691 16-03-2011 00:39

Re: Competition jobs
 
whats a battery boy/girl and what do they do

EricH 16-03-2011 00:41

Re: Competition jobs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron691 (Post 1040498)
whats a battery boy/girl and what do they do

If the robot's battery is not charged, the robot is useless. Whoever is in charge of batteries needs to make sure that they are charged/charging/not used if they're not ready.

Aaron691 16-03-2011 00:44

Re: Competition jobs
 
go it is there anybody else that should be in the pit and/or other team jobs

548swimmer 16-03-2011 00:44

Re: Competition jobs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron691 (Post 1040498)
whats a battery boy/girl and what do they do

They would make sure the robot has a fresh battery, and record (assuming you label your batteries) which battery was used when. They also make sure the batteries make it back to the charger after being pulled from the robot.

Karibou 16-03-2011 01:22

Re: Competition jobs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron691 (Post 1040504)
go it is there anybody else that should be in the pit and/or other team jobs

You also should always have someone in the pit who knows the code and the control system very well.

Most other "jobs" depend on your team - do you have a mascot costume that needs to be worn? We have people whose job it is to go around and pass out buttons, as well. Another useful thing would be to assign one person (probably a parent or mentor) who makes sure that everyone is staying healthy by drinking enough water and eating meals. Speaking of meals, there needs to be someone to coordinate them (taking orders and money, placing the order, etc - figure out if your venue offers pre-ordered lunches and when the deadline is for them).

CalTran 16-03-2011 01:55

Re: Competition jobs
 
Press pass! I'm usually used by my team as a runner if we're in queue. As well, I know electronics so during Elims I'm like a free pass in :)

RoboMom 16-03-2011 08:11

Re: Competition jobs
 
NEMO (non-engineering mentor organization) has a paper in the resource section "Jobs at the Competitions."

http://www.firstnemo.org/resources.htm

It is an older paper, and we would welcome any suggestions for updating!

Siri 16-03-2011 09:48

Re: Competition jobs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eagleeyedan (Post 1040453)
If you are in the que, yes. If during qualification matches and you are already on the field, no. If you are in the elims, you can call one 6 minute time-out but I wouldn't waste that on a loose bolt but if there is something wrong that could affect the outcome of the match, it would be worth it.

If you don't have a toolbox on your cart, have a runner. You'll probably regret it at least once this season if you don't. Do not make this person part of your drive team (because they run away). They can wait with your team in most cases, they just can't do it inside the arena. Most queue setups are at least relatively convenient about this, and the driver can always come over to grab something. This applies right up through quarterfinals.

In semifinals, you'll still have some wait time between matches without timeouts--even in finals it's around 2min. You can bring your pit in, however, so you don't need a runner. Most venues allow 2-4 extra people in to help.

You can also have a media person. Most venues nowadays allow 1 person from each team in the current match to come in and take photos/video.

jvriezen 16-03-2011 10:28

Re: Competition jobs
 
Our pit team had a checklist of items to deal with before/after each match. The list was subdivided among the pit kids so each time, they did the exact same thing. Things like replace battery, reset minibot deployment, tighten troublesome set screws, check tension on guy wires, change bumpers, etc. One time someone reset the deployment minibot 'on' switch pull string differently than the working mode, and it failed on the field. Consistency and repeatability is very important. And whenever we found an oversight, it was added to the checklist.

Some of us even wanted to post the checklist on the robot itself, so it could be rechecked in the queue.

This is the first year we had this, and this was our breakout year, being picked by alliance #2 and coming in second.

MattC9 16-03-2011 15:47

Re: Competition jobs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron691 (Post 1040504)
go it is there anybody else that should be in the pit and/or other team jobs

The only people that should be in the pit are, your drive team,scouts(sometimes if they need to talk to the drive team) your pit crew(the people who know the robot inside and out), and any one needed to talk to judges. Most of the time your scouts will just be walking around looking at other robots.

Eagleeyedan 16-03-2011 15:53

Re: Competition jobs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MattC9 (Post 1040770)
The only people that should be in the pit are, your drive team,scouts(sometimes if they need to talk to the drive team) your pit crew(the people who know the robot inside and out), and any one needed to talk to judges. Most of the time your scouts will just be walking around looking at other robots.

We have 2 pit scouts and the rest of the scouts are scouting the matches. It gets annoying when there are 20 people trying to pack into a 10' square area and you can't get any work done on the robot. We have one memebr assigned as pit boss. His job is to run the pit and make sure it keeps clear. If scouts need a break, they can WALK around the pits but not hang around doing nothing.


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