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XaulZan11 18-03-2011 15:32

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1041729)
I think the #s are very important, especially after looking at FRCTop25, in which team 217 is very low ranked, where I would pick them over almost any other team (except 1114).

What makes you feel 217 is ranked too low?

mwtidd 18-03-2011 16:25

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 1041733)
What makes you feel 217 is ranked too low?

Looking at their contributions they are in the top 5 tier IMO.

going through the ETCs
1114: 47
217: 41
2056: 39
111:38
148: 37

The top 5 are IMO in a tier of their own.
(I don't have 254's ETC, I really wish I did...)

33: 32

However 33 has emphasized PR and their double cap pushing them into the top 5

217 explicitly chose not to do any PR and keep themselves out of the limelight. However, according to my #s they are the only team with a top 10 minibot and a top 10 robot.

Again I believe 217,2056,111, and 148 are interchangeable.
1114 is in a league of its own.

The difference between 33 and 217 is really the minibot. 217s is worth 17 where as 33s is worth 9

Ian Curtis 18-03-2011 16:55

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1041750)
Looking at their contributions they are in the top 5 tier IMO.

going through the ETCs
1114: 47
217: 41
2056: 39
111:38
148: 37

The top 5 are IMO in a tier of their own.
(I don't have 254's ETC, I really wish I did...)

33: 32

However 33 has emphasized PR and their double cap pushing them into the top 5

217 explicitly chose not to do any PR and keep themselves out of the limelight. However, according to my #s they are the only team with a top 10 minibot and a top 10 robot.

Again I believe 217,2056,111, and 148 are interchangeable.
1114 is in a league of its own.

The difference between 33 and 217 is really the minibot. 217s is worth 17 where as 33s is worth 9

Are you keeping live stats for this weekend? 118 has been jaw-droppingly impressive this weekend. They put up 78 unassisted points in their first match... then they did it again in the 2nd*!

Their OPR has been north of 70 all day, I'm curious to see what their ETC is.

*Someone might've helped feed them tubes in the 2nd match, but for the first match they were the only team on their alliance that made it to the field.

XaulZan11 18-03-2011 17:17

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Curtis (Post 1041753)
*Someone might've helped feed them tubes in the 2nd match, but for the first match they were the only team on their alliance that made it to the field.

I actually think it is easier for a single robot to look good and score a lot when there isn't another robot trying to score at the same. I've seen 118 twice (as well as several other boring Lone Star matches) and think they have benifited from a lack of scorers and the isolation. I think their most impressive improvement is their new deployment.

mwtidd 18-03-2011 17:20

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 1041758)
I actually think it is easier for a single robot to look good and score a lot when there isn't another robot trying to score at the same. I've seen 118 twice (as well as several other boring Lone Star matches) and think they have benifited from a lack of scorers and the isolation. I think their most impressive improvement is their new deployment.

Yeah if they have a new minibot deployment. They will be a monster.

mwtidd 18-03-2011 18:41

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Curtis (Post 1041753)
Are you keeping live stats for this weekend? 118 has been jaw-droppingly impressive this weekend. They put up 78 unassisted points in their first match... then they did it again in the 2nd*!

Their OPR has been north of 70 all day, I'm curious to see what their ETC is.

*Someone might've helped feed them tubes in the 2nd match, but for the first match they were the only team on their alliance that made it to the field.

Overall for 2011:
etc: 30
erc: 21
emc: 8

total etc goes across all Q matches (including multiple events)
if you look at the contributions on a match by match basis
they are according to that event.

Their still top 25, but Q61 hurt them pretty bad

Q18
etc 46
erc 28
emc 18

Q26
etc 37
erc 17
emc 21

Q35
etc 42
erc 23
emc 19

Q43
etc 45
erc 23
emc 21

Q53
etc 33
erc 18
emc 15

Q61
etc 9
erc 9
emc 0

???? what happened in Q53 and Q61?

mwtidd 18-03-2011 19:11

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
Detroit:
FIRST 1023
ETC: 38
robot: 18
minibot: 21

Bayou:
FIRST 456
ETC: 31
robot: 24
minibot: 7

St Louis
FIRST 1985
ETC: 29
robot: 15
minibot: 15

FIRST 3284
ETC: 30
robot: 11
minibot: 19

pfreivald 18-03-2011 19:22

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
340 is kickin' bot at Chesapeake... (And I'm not just saying that because they're a fellow Bausch + Lomb team -- they look very impressive!)

xSAWxBLADEx 18-03-2011 21:33

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
217 doesnt impress me much this year :/ yes they have a great robot but it's not the best I would say 33, 16, 148, 1918,and 548 (there's a few more I just can't think right now) idk it much just me...please 217 prove me wrong :)

Paul Copioli 18-03-2011 21:42

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xSAWxBLADEx (Post 1041814)
217 doesnt impress me much this year :/ yes they have a great robot but it's not the best I would say 33, 16, 148, 1918,and 548 (there's a few more I just can't think right now) idk it much just me...please 217 prove me wrong :)


I agree with you 100%. Don't even bother watching us the rest of the season.

BrendanB 18-03-2011 21:43

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xSAWxBLADEx (Post 1041814)
217 doesnt impress me much this year :/ yes they have a great robot but it's not the best I would say 33, 16, 148, 1918,and 548 (there's a few more I just can't think right now) idk it much just me...please 217 prove me wrong :)

I can't wait to see 217!

xSAWxBLADEx 18-03-2011 21:53

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Copioli (Post 1041819)
I agree with you 100%. Don't even bother watching us the rest of the season.

lol Paul your funny...One thing I've learned in about 5 years with FIRST never count the Thunder Chickens out :)

jhusser 18-03-2011 22:04

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
team 125 at the bayou regional can score two tubes on the top row in autonomous. big props to them

Jimmy the Kidd 18-03-2011 22:15

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jhusser (Post 1041830)
team 125 at the bayou regional can score two tubes on the top row in autonomous. big props to them

It's QUITE impressive. They're having some consistency problems with their autonomous, and with their minibot. It's bordering on sub 2 second times every time, but they're burning up motors. 456, however, finished this first day on top. I'm not sure if 364 (us) was either second or third, but NUTRONS (125), 456, and the rookie team 3411 (Team Intrepid) are killing the competition. Not to be counted out is 1927 (Tempest), and my pick for upset is 1912 (Team Combustion.)


Jimmy

jhusser 18-03-2011 22:19

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
thats true,ps i dont think 3411 is a rookie team, just new people, once we get are autonomous we can be really good because we allso have a consistent minibot now.


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