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XaulZan11 20-03-2011 01:44

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
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Originally Posted by BJC (Post 1042261)
They showcased a tube hoarding stratigy where they would place as may tubes in their safe zone as possible without even trying to score them (trusting their partner to score for them.) The result was overall lower scores for both alliances.

So they fetched tubes for their partners to score? Am I misunderstanding something?

Paul Copioli 20-03-2011 10:52

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
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Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 1042277)
So they fetched tubes for their partners to score? Am I misunderstanding something?


You are not misunderstanding anything. That is all we did. We just acted as a feeder for our alliance partner. No big deal.

JB987 20-03-2011 10:59

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
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Originally Posted by Paul Copioli (Post 1042358)
You are not misunderstanding anything. That is all we did. We just acted as a feeder for our alliance partner. No big deal.

Makes great sense...if you are mobile and acquire tubes off floor, or from feeder faster than your partner who can also place tubes efficiently...why not? You do what's best for the alliance, right?

cire 20-03-2011 11:50

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BJC (Post 1042261)
They showcased a tube hoarding stratigy where they would place as may tubes in their safe zone as possible without even trying to score them (trusting their partner to score for them.) The result was overall lower scores for both alliances.

Considering their alliance scored over 110 points EVERY round in the eliminations at the Detroit regional, I think it only lowered the scores for their opposing alliance. This is one of the best defensive/offensive strategies - reduce the number of tubes available for your opponents to score, and increase the number your team can score.

Paul Copioli 20-03-2011 12:11

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
Basically, in the SF and Finals at Detroit we were going against alliances with defensive beasts (440 in the SF and 2832 in the Finals) and knew they would try to cut off 51 from getting back to our scoring zone. 51 has a high maneuverable slide drive and can go around defense, but can't really push through it. We have a 6WD with 6 motors using IFI traction wheels and can push through most teams so we felt it was better to keep 51 scoring and have 3096 and us get all of the tubes.

This is a strategy that only works in certain situations and worked well for us in a couple of instances. It requires a lot of faith in your partners and constant communication between the drive coaches.

A big part of the credit for this successful strategy goes to the three drive coaches on our alliance; Tito, Josh, and my brother Mike but that is for another thread.

Basel A 20-03-2011 12:12

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
Because 217 had a partner that was fast at scoring, it wasn't less efficient to have an excellent scorer such as themselves just moving tubes. However, by getting the tubes out of open play quickly, they limited their opponents' tubes, and thus their scoring. I have to assume this was combined with strictly limited HP throwing from the DT Champion alliance. Excellent strategy!

mwtidd 20-03-2011 13:24

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
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Originally Posted by xSAWxBLADEx (Post 1041814)
217 doesnt impress me much this year :/ yes they have a great robot but it's not the best I would say 33, 16, 148, 1918,and 548 (there's a few more I just can't think right now) idk it much just me...please 217 prove me wrong :)

217.... the only team to my knowledge with 2 banners :)

Josh Fox 20-03-2011 13:41

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
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Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1042419)
217.... the only team to my knowledge with 2 banners :)

294 and 177 both have 2 world championship banners to their name. I know there are more, but I'm drawing a blank right now unfortunately.

mwtidd 20-03-2011 13:42

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
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Originally Posted by Josh Fox (Post 1042430)
294 and 177 both have 2 world championship banner to their name. I know there are more, but I'm drawing a blank right now unfortunately.

I meant for 2011.

Given its only week 3...

I hope they get the hat trick at Troy :)

Jimmy the Kidd 20-03-2011 13:44

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
Coming out of Bayou Regional, I was surprised by a lot of teams. Don't discount 125 at Boston. 1927, 3337, and 364 won at Bayou against them, 456, and 3616, and it was close all matches. 125's minibot and "claw" are top-notch.

flippy147852 20-03-2011 14:12

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
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Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1042419)
217.... the only team to my knowledge with 2 banners :)

1918 also has two banners (Traverse City, West Michigan).

mwtidd 20-03-2011 14:48

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
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Originally Posted by flippy147852 (Post 1042452)
1918 also has two banners (Traverse City, West Michigan).

Thanks for the correction and congrats!

What do you attribute to you getting the 2 banners?

Josh Fox 20-03-2011 15:00

Re: Teams to watch out for in week 3
 
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Originally Posted by lineskier (Post 1042432)
I meant for 2011.

Given its only week 3...

I hope they get the hat trick at Troy :)

Ah, my mistake.


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