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They still have another match at least to get it right :)

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They still got einstein to get it right :p

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There werent any white tubes.. lol

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Very true. The alliance did score 152 in their 2nd semi-final match but also got a penalty for G34 herding while possessing which is hard to avoid when moving so fast through a crowded field.

A very impressive and dominant performance by all three members of the alliance.

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The latest spreadsheet is up. It's no surprise that 1114 was undefeated in ALL their rounds, both Quals & Elims. There might have been higher scores than what you see here, I am listing official results, not top score prior to penalties.

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Where can I find the videos the Waterloo matches? I want to see the high score

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Look on YouTube in a few days. Let people get home from the regional so they can upload it. Most people have regional flu when they get home. So just give it some time.

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150 points, semifinals (if I am not mistaken), the 1114 alliance, Canada. yesterday March 26.

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1114, 3756 & 2056, match 13 semi-final 1-1 150 to 54. Also check theredalliance.com & thebluealliance.com for updates. Here is the updated weekly high scores with Hawaii added in.

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http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13579393

Skip to 1 hour 20 mins or 1 hour 36 mins to see 1114's high scoring semifinal matches.

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OK, here is the latest spreadsheet on highest scores. I was FTAA in Hartford & had a blast watching the robots up close scrambling to score points.

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... O_O... I think we have a winner...

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Anybody think we'll see 1114/2056/3756's 152 (before penalties) or 150 (after penalties) fall in Week 6 or at CMP?

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If I were a betting man, I'd go with CMP being the ultimate record-breaker. While we may see some nice scores and maybe even a new record set in Week 6, the best-of-the-best will be at Championships. I wouldn't be surprised at all if a qualifying match is the one that does it.

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Depends on the schedule at MSC... You could easily get an alliance (or even two alliances) with three high caliber teams like 67, 217, 33, 1918, 548, 201, 245, 1718, 2337, 2137, 51, 2054, 27, 1023, 3539, 494........ Without turning this into another "How good Mi teams are" or "How good the MSC will be" thread...I think due to the qualifying nature of the MSC, it has a better chance of happening there than at the FRCC (FIRST Robotics Competition Championship).

So, my opinion, if not at MSC, then it won't have a chance until IRI.

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The only reason I disagree is because at the MSC, every team plays smart, which (sorry out-of-state FRC) isn't true at the CMP. That means, at the MSC, if there's an alliance of the caliber to break 150, the opposing alliance should have both the strategy and the talent to counter such an attempt.

This could similarly result in lower scores at the MSC than would be expected for the level of the teams competing.

(On second thought, it could happen in the eliminations if one alliance tries to go all-out on the tubes and attempt to simply out-score, perhaps in a Semifinal 1)

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Hm, I'm apparently still very unfamiliar with Michigan's system. If it's as tough as you all make it sound, then it's possible we could see something happen in Week 6. But that still doesn't mean CMP should be ruled out entirely.

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Very good point here! Tube starvation at MSC will really play into the scores at such an event. You can get 6 of the best teams out there but if they both are starving tubes you won't have too high of a score.

That being said though MSC is looking very, very tough based on the teams attending. Don just listed out 16 scary opponents in a normal match and who knows how strong they can make an alliance combining together and adding a third partner!

CMP shouldn't be rules out either if. How many upper 20/low 30 point matches were there in Atlanta last year both before and after penalties?

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Special notice deserves to be given to the alliance of 1730 at North Star for scoring 114 points after penalties in quarterfinals with only two robots playing for their alliance, 2225 was experiencing problems.

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But I guess I disagree slightly. Because they are playing smart, all the teams know that it's going to come down to your win/loss record AND ranking points. To get ranking points, you can't starve the other alliance... So, I am not sure the tube starvation strategy in quals is going to be as common and that all out scoring (especially with two strong alliances against each other) might rule out. Everyone is going to think they can outscore the other alliance and of course ;) they have the faster mini-bots...

But, I could be wrong...

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But you're not!

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Yes I do see what you mean. Our team used such a strategy in Qualifications 65 RED: 3451,176,3467 vs 175, 885, 40 and the final score was 75 to 62 with our robot (3467) being dead for half of the match when we could have been defending 40. If was going into a match against 67, 217, 27, 1918, etc I would tell our HP's to throw little too no tubes because the more tube there are the more they can score. The more time it takes them to get a tube due to a lack of tubes the less they will score.

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Jack is right, Wright is not wrong! :rolleyes:

You just described the situation in Q48 at Smoky Mountains Regional, perfectly.

48, 79, 1747 against 71, 931, 3861. Result: 87-114. Faster minibots prevailed.

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Good human players might eliminate the effectiveness of this strategy in some matches. I've seen numerous human players at the Michigan districts that can throw all the way to the scoring zone. I know ours, 217, 469, and 1250 (I think) can do it regularly.

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1250 can, but hold alot of tubes because of not being able to ground load

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I don't know if this is special or not but round 8 or something like that (my teams first round) at SVR was a 70-70 tie. It was pretty high for a tie, at least I thought it was.

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After looking over your spreadsheet, I noticed an error (I think).
For the Midwest Regional, I believe in Qualification Match 50, our team along with 71 and 2410 scored a total of 111 points.

Unless I have my numbers wrong...

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I'm resubmitting corrected scores, thanks to eagle eyes out there. As always, I welcome messages sent to me about corrections.

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Although that was hella fun (props to both 2949 and 71), that was the highest in qualifications, but is nothing compared to the 143 that 1625, 2826 and 1367 put up in the elims (this score is on the sheet).

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ah, I see. I didn't realize the Qualification high scores he had was combining both alliances. That makes more sense. And that match was a lot of fun :D

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The scores have been crazy at MSC, including what appears to be the highest losing score: Q25 2767 326 68 vs 1528 3539 1718 109-106 (!!) I have no idea if this also breaks the record for the highest combined score, but it's pretty impressive.

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Crazy indeed! Every match so far (33 of 128 total) has had a combined score of 65 or more, with only 4 with a combined score of less than 100. Incredible...

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In the Greater Toronto East Regional, in Quarters 1 Match 1, team 1503, 1114, and 1482, scored 147-0.

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That is an incredible feat...but I think the thing we overlook is the goose egg. While the win is nice, you get no RP's out of that. The match mentioned above where 106 was the losing score...that is HUGE for RP's.

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Yes, I believe so... 215 is the highest combined, done now three times (once at Troy).... We've done it twice in two matches... The match we played in before was 118-97... Only at the Michigan State Championships can you score over 90 and lose....

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Only at MSC can you score over 100 and still lose!

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I guess I'll have to post some extra scoring on the spreadsheet. Should be interesting doing the championships! I'll split up between the quals & Einstein fields.

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Only at MSC can you score over 110 and still lose!

Your alliance proved it, 111-112 in round 1 of the finals today.

Congratulations to the #2 alliance 33, 67, and 70 on a very hard fought MSC win, and to the #4 alliance 27, 245, and 1023 for making them put up ridiculous scores to earn it.

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Thanks a ton! Thanks mostly to Teams 27 and 245 for picking us! That match was extreemly frustrating (we lost by 1!). We had a tube in our possesion and were just about to score it when the 4th minibot went up, ending the match. Had we placed that tube, we would have had it! Oh well though, congrats to teams ##, 67 and 70 on the win

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Qualifying match 111 at the Michigan State Champions had a score of 147-68, with the winning teams being 70, 2337, and 2054. It was amazing, especially since they were 11 points away from the maximum possible score. :ahh:

Also, it looks like they were just a mere 3 points away from a tie with 1114's 150.

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Was SF1-1 a new record combined score?

#8 alliance (RED) 74, 548, 3098 vs. #4 alliance (BLUE) 27, 245, 1023 -- result, 143-106. Wow!

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Well, since we are talking about high scores, here is the latest tally.

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After squeaking through that match and getting crushed in the next one, I was unbelievably nervous for the final match.

Congratulations to 27, 245 and 1023 for an amazing run at the most competitive regional event in the world, and coming so close to winning it all.

Also to 67 and 70 for being absolutely amazing alliance partners. Couldn't have done it without you!

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If we exclude the Michigan State Championship which is a very different event, and limit ourselves to Regionals, then the highest combined score of the regular season was Semi-Final 1-2 at the Boston Regional.
224 points were scored in a 116-108 nail-biter between the #1 (88, 78, 1099) and #5 (1100, 1059, 241) alliances.

It's a sign of a very competitive Regional where an alliance can score 108 and still be knocked out of the eliminations.

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Here is a screen scrape of all the matches at all regionals. The only one not posted was LI. This was a quick pass so there may be some mistakes.

David Cherba
Team 3234
Mentor
WZ8T

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Top sum from both alliances in preliminary rounds from all regionals

where when match red 1 red 2 red 3 blue 1 blue 2 blue 3 r-score b-score sum
GL 9:49 AM 38 2337 27 74 2000 308 1023 134 102 236
GL 9:44 AM 108 280 1918 217 469 308 3234 119 104 223
GL 12:49 PM 64 3098 3688 3539 1 308 3547 120 102 222
GL 4:43 PM 89 1250 1684 1941 830 302 1918 105 116 221
GL 10:20 AM 43 1250 68 201 3098 245 217 79 140 219
GL 2:57 PM 74 2959 67 3539 33 74 494 106 112 218
GL 5:51 PM 20 1504 2054 910 326 1250 1718 97 118 215
GL 6:23 PM 25 2767 326 68 1528 3539 1718 109 106 215
GL 10:07 AM 111 70 2337 2054 3539 1941 1322 147 68 215
CA 4:20 17 330 1515 1717 399 2339 294 124 87 211
SJ 3:36 15 1538 751 254 1622 295 971 125 85 210
GL 11:14 AM 121 2137 70 1023 3688 2959 68 129 78 207
IL 3:31 16 1987 3067 16 1625 2826 1367 100 106 206
GL 10:54 AM 118 1718 67 3098 2145 247 469 116 89 205
GL 12:23 PM 60 226 201 302 33 2137 2834 96 108 204
GL 11:26 AM 123 3234 2337 1918 245 548 3620 103 101 204
GL 4:01 PM 3 1718 548 573 3548 70 74 123 80 203
GL 11:20 AM 122 51 2246 74 1 1684 1243 81 122 203
GL 2:02 PM 66 2000 1718 141 2474 201 217 79 123 202
GL 3:03 PM 75 66 1684 1023 70 469 226 92 110 202
IL 2:29 13 118 3494 111 45 71 1732 94 108 202
CA 3:40 13 330 1515 1717 2339 294 399 121 80 201
GL 3:36 PM 79 2145 51 67 548 2054 2604 118 83 201
TN 3:27 PM 48 1747 48 79 931 3861 71 87 114 201
GL 10:41 AM 46 494 51 1528 85 2619 2474 128 72 200
GL 5:45 PM 19 302 469 573 2337 1528 2000 121 78 199
GL 5:10 PM 93 3542 2612 1243 67 70 1528 79 120 199
GL 4:37 PM 88 2619 3234 1023 201 2767 2054 84 114 198
WAT 11:48 AM 15 1114 3683 3396 2056 1305 1334 108 90 198
GL 5:39 PM 18 141 2145 3547 27 1918 33 71 126 197
GL 10:27 AM 114 2619 2000 245 910 1243 33 92 105 197
IL 2:55 15 3494 111 118 71 45 1732 135 62 197


David Cherba
Team 3234
Mentor
WZ8t

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It's crazy to think that our robot was a part of the highest Qualifications match total score AND the second highest single-alliance score so far this season, if these numbers are correct.

Those qualifications score totals really show how powerful Michigan teams are, and that the depth of the field at MSC rivals even the Championship event :eek:

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Keep in mind, because of the diminishing returns, that 3 point gap means at least 1, and as many as 3 tubes.

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I believe that match was four logos, three ubertubes, one game piece on the bottom row on one side, along with the first- and second-place minibots.

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It was amazing!! Great alliance partners make it happen!!! Great job to all 3 teams #70, #2337 and #2054. For the record Team #2054 was part of the alliance high score of 135 points at West Michigan Regionals. Another great alliance at West Michigan Regionals with Teams #27 and #141.

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And therefore, would have required placement of at least 2, if not 3 more tubes to gain 3 more points.

1114/2056's 150 was 4 complete logos, 3 ubers, 1-2 minis and the triangle and square up on each of the bottom row logos.

Their 149 (152 pre-penalties) was 5 logos, 3 ubers, 1-2 minis.

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OK, here are the latest & final scores for official matches on Archimedes, Newton, Curie & Galileo, then Einstein. These are only the highest combined & single scores. There were way too many matches to show other than my original highest. Of course this doesn't reflect on what the real competition was like. I only wish I could have been there.