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Re: Notifying teams of yellow/red cards
At St. Louis it appeared that the head ref managed to show the card to the driver station before the team left, and each one was announced over the intercom.
I also think that every penalty should be announced over the PA as well - how hard would it be to establish some kind of standard system, like the NFL? Explain each rule the first time it comes up, then just say the rule number or a brief description of each penalty as it occurs. IMO this would dramatically improve the spectator experience. |
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I have to agree with Madison whole-heartedly. I also understand that being a ref is a tiresome, thankless job. I just felt really crappy, when I had to go to the ref's question Box to get rules clarified. Often the responses proved that either a ruling disregarded a rule or that they agreed with me, but "didn't see it"...
It's rough, but that just means that us and 488 will need to start winning our matches by 30 extra points to compensate for the unspoken or unclear penalties. You do that and you'll have a shot at getting some ties for matches... :P Hang in there, you weren't alone this weekend. Let's keep our heads up and hope for a little better communication in the weekend to come! |
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At one of the regionals I have been to the Pit Admin said a number of incorrect things, such as teams were not allowed to go to practice matches (at all) unless they were fully inspected. Another was, the Inspection Station will be open until 8PM tonight, so there is no rush to be inspected (this at 1PM when only 1 out of 40 teams had finished inspection). |
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I was a Ref in Duluth and we had some matches that had over 5 penalties, and it seemed like there were only a couple of handfuls of penalty free matches. The head Ref had to tabulate the penalties (with the correct rule number, G12, G32...), give them to the announcer so they could be read off to the stands, and then run over to the station and show the yellow/red cards. The field reset had to happen real quick with all of the tubes having to get back into place. So I could see why teams would not know if they got a yellow/red card. If you see the Ref's huddling up, there is most likely some penalties being called.
If there is ever a question about a ruling on the field, go to the question box. I know I tried to keep an eye open to see if anyone was standing there and send someone over in a timely manner. The head Ref in Duluth was more than willing to answer any questions you may have. |
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Maybe someone could approach an official (if he.she is not doin this) and ask (politely) for thme to always show the card and tell everyone the reason for the call. Also in Pitt there was a question box in which you could stand inside the box and wait for the fref to approach you. Then you can ask the ref what were the penalties for, etc. I am not sure if these are at every competition? |
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I know this is probably the least effective place to post this idea, what if refs had flags like in football. They would throw the flag in the direction of the robot or person breaking the rules.
I understand that it is in every teams interests to have all team members and mentors memorize all of the rules. It just seams like there are times when people unintentionally break the rules and don't know they are breaking them. Also, I know that all of the regionals are on a tight time schedule. Perhaps having a few members on the drive team remove the robot, and giving drive team coaches an opportunity to talk to a ref would be of benefit. |
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Same here, when we got a red card at the Detroit District event, the head referee personally came to our pit after the match to tell us that we got a red card and explained why.
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