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Al Skierkiewicz 28-03-2011 11:28

Re: Logomotion: From A First Person Perspective
 
Aaron,
Simply ask if the team has made modifications since they last inspected. If not, go get an inspector to check the robot over in the queue.

JesseK 28-03-2011 11:46

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In Philly 2008, we added a camera to our bot for 1 Qual match. Beforehand, I asked the LRI and the FTA. They approved it for 1 match since it was for our internal sponsorship purposes, it a non-wireless camera and its use wouldn't add time to robot resets between matches. I used some plasticy foam to make a housing for the camera, put it in an obvious location, and started recording while we were in queue.

Put some common sense into anything you put onto the robot field. It's much better to ask and be told 'no', since there is no forgiveness for this kind of thing.

EricH 28-03-2011 13:47

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Originally Posted by wilsonmw04 (Post 1046358)
In quals your partners DQ/red card does not affect the win or your qualifying points if I remember correctly.

<T03> gets around that by assigning 3 red cards for one team participating without getting inspected--one red card per alliance member.

I would also figure that that not getting reinspected after a modification means you aren't inspected, invoking a <T03>. Just to be on the safe side, assume that; if you like living on the edge, assume the other way.

wilsonmw04 28-03-2011 15:33

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1046454)
<T03> r.
I would also figure that that not getting reinspected after a modification means you aren't inspected, invoking a <T03>. Just to be on the safe side, assume that; if you like living on the edge, assume the other way.

To put the burden on a third party to make sure they are inspected seems a bit off target if you ask me. If the robot has an inspection sticker, I would assume it is ready to go. It is up the the team that made a "modification" to make sure they are reinspected. This is like you getting the ticket for a person's expired tags in the other lane while waiting at a spot light...

Al Skierkiewicz 28-03-2011 15:39

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wilson,
It is one of the prime reasons we do finals inspections. Too many teams are making mods without checking. While few in number, the changes can and do put the teams overweight.

sanddrag 28-03-2011 15:53

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Regardless of legality regarding power and wireless communications, I could argue that if your robot is at 120.0 lbs, and you strap on a 0.2lb anything, you've just given yourself an illegal competitive advantage.

Racer26 28-03-2011 16:18

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My 2 cents: The rules specifically ALLOW a battery contained in a COTS computing device on board the ROBOT. A cell phone with its internal battery would qualify under this rule. So long as its not making unauthorized wireless comms (put it in airplane mode), I think it falls under the rules for Non-Functional Decorations.

davidthefat 28-03-2011 18:30

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Originally Posted by sanddrag (Post 1046522)
Regardless of legality regarding power and wireless communications, I could argue that if your robot is at 120.0 lbs, and you strap on a 0.2lb anything, you've just given yourself an illegal competitive advantage.

:rolleyes: 119.4lb was our post qual weight...

JesseK 28-03-2011 21:00

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Originally Posted by sanddrag (Post 1046522)
... competitive advantage.

I could always be geared for 16 ft/s using 2 CIMs :ahh:

Al Skierkiewicz 29-03-2011 07:20

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Weight is not the only consideration when inspecting cameras added to robots.


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