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Karibou 28-03-2011 00:31

Re: Attending multiple regionals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 1046219)
It might be theoretically possible to squeeze in attendance at the Israel Regional between weeks 2 and 3, making a total of seven regional competitions. You'd probably not arrive at the week 3 event until rather late on Thursday, though. :p

I wonder how FedEx would like that...

ErikEdhlund 28-03-2011 00:57

Re: Attending multiple regionals
 
I can understand your idea for powerhouse teams not attending more than their home event per year. However, there are quite a few positives by allowing powerhouse teams like 16, 71, 111, 1114 (not including Michigan teams due to their statewide tournaments) to attend more than their home event. There is a tremendous amount of experience and knowledge from powerhouse teams. I know from my experience on WildStang, we share what we can while at events. A few examples were at Midwest regional, we helped 896 rebuild a robot from the ground up and had a student be their coach and lead to them to producing a functioning robot. Powerhouse teams bring a lot of leadership and produce some unique strategies that teams in the future can utilize. I know that it may be unfair to have to go against a team of powerhouses, but there is always a silver lining to every cloud :)

Ankit S. 28-03-2011 01:13

Re: Attending multiple regionals
 
I do agree with you that powerhouse teams dominate, however I disagree with forcing powerhouses to compete at only their home.

If you forced powerhouses to compete at only one regional, then all the other teams would have to only compete at one regional as well, to make it not look like discrimination. If that happened, then there would be less collaboration that is seen.

My idea is to choose the alliance captain from the second place team and send them to championships. For ex. team X wins San Diego. Two weeks later, they win LA. Team Y was the captain of the other finalist alliance. Give team X's alliance partners and team Y an invitation to champs. Team X already has its invitation from San Diego. In the rare case that 2 or more of team X's alliance have already won as well, team Y's first and second pick would also be given an invitation.

This would allow for more teams to experience the aura of championship, and allow for greater mingling.

Just my thoughts.

czeke 28-03-2011 08:24

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Denying or limiting a team from attending multiple regionals, whether it's a powerhouse team, or not, is egregious. These teams enhance the regional, rather than detract from it. What they bring to the table, is usually of tremendous value, from both a design and organizational, point of view. If your team doesn't have the resources, that these teams possess, then learn from them, as to how they do it, and hopefully, with some intense forethought, you can be more clever , in your designs, then they are.

Racer26 28-03-2011 09:58

Re: Attending multiple regionals
 
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Originally Posted by BeltSanderRocks (Post 1046249)
In the rare case that 2 or more of team X's alliance have already won as well...

This is not particularly rare, at least here in Canada. 1114 and 2056 have been winning together in multiple regionals since 2007.

Ankit S. 28-03-2011 19:59

Re: Attending multiple regionals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1075guy (Post 1046343)
This is not particularly rare, at least here in Canada. 1114 and 2056 have been winning together in multiple regionals since 2007.

My bad. :o

Edit: But what do you think of my idea?

Racer26 29-03-2011 09:53

Re: Attending multiple regionals
 
There's no need to change the existing system. When a team that already has a seat at CMP wins another seat, their seat is automatically opened up to the first available team on the wait list.

Mastonevich 29-03-2011 10:31

Re: Attending multiple regionals
 
I want to commend team 2471 for picking two other teams who had not punched their tickets. That has to be one of the top acts of gracious professionalism I have heard of.

There is nothing stopping any team from attending more than one regional. As with anything in life it takes hard work to make it happen. If that is a lesson that FIRST teaches, we should embrace it.

The motto should be how do we get to be like those teams? Not, that is unfair and we should bring them down.

All that said the disparity between the top and bottom seems to be growing. It would not surprise me if FIRST tries to address this in the future.

B-Bot 29-03-2011 11:08

Re: Attending multiple regionals
 
Although power house teams are scarry to face they should be alowed to go to the rest of their regionals for many reasons.
1. they already paid for it and their entitled to go.
2. they contribute help to manny rookie teams.
3. It makes the compititions more chalenging

davidthefat 29-03-2011 11:23

Re: Attending multiple regionals
 
What about an all rookie only regional?

Clinton Bolinger 29-03-2011 11:35

Re: Attending multiple regionals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davidthefat (Post 1046895)
What about an all rookie only regional?

2008 - Kettering Rookie Regional.

It was the pilot for the Michigan District Structure.

-Clinton-

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