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TNT280Staff 17-04-2011 11:39

Re: Michigan State Championship
 
My DVR puked on me so someone please post up the broadcast so we can watch it / save it. Someone contact Gail Alpert to get the approval from FIRST in Michigan to post it up. I'm quite sure that this is something that would like to be shown in as many venues as possible - Remember it was a homework assignment!!

Patrick Seeney 17-04-2011 11:44

Re: Michigan State Championship
 
I thought that they did a great job, kept it engaging and entertaining for the audience at home. Paul was an excellent color commentator and I too agree you could see how his understanding of the game and strategies really made it easy for the viewer at home to know what is going on.

The only area that was confusing was with the other cameras. I watched it on a big screen, and they had the 6 other camera views on the side. It was tough to see the action on my big screen, so I can only imagine on smaller tv's. I think if they would have cut to some of those shots during the match, it would have made the action more intense. I found myself focusing mainly on the main camera. I know that ESPN does things like this online where you can select different angles to view during game. Something like that could make use of the angles and integrate them more in to the action.

Editing was great, transitions were great, and the side stories were even greater. The sideline reporting was amazing in that it showed the emotion as events were developing and you could see the excitement in the students faces. I too thought playing the matches in a row really helped keep the audiences attention. Only piece of advice here is that there needed to be a scoreboard of some sort on TV. Paul did a great job of keeping up to date on the score, but that is a must in any sporting event.

J_Miles 17-04-2011 12:18

Re: Michigan State Championship
 
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Originally Posted by Patrick Seeney (Post 1053748)
Paul was an excellent color commentator and I too agree you could see how his understanding of the game and strategies really made it easy for the viewer at home to know what is going on.

Spot on, I think. Paul did a great job of explaining things as they developed in a timely fashion while not being to intrusive. His analysis was very good, and his criticism was, I think, generally well placed.

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Originally Posted by Patrick Seeney (Post 1053748)
The only area that was confusing was with the other cameras. I watched it on a big screen, and they had the 6 other camera views on the side. It was tough to see the action on my big screen, so I can only imagine on smaller tv's. I think if they would have cut to some of those shots during the match, it would have made the action more intense.

I noticed that they did cut to those cameras quite frequently, but within reason. I think that it was, generally, well done. I'm not sure if I would have even left those there in the first place and, instead, just cut to their feeds from time-to-time.

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Originally Posted by Patrick Seeney (Post 1053748)
Editing was great, transitions were great, and the side stories were even greater. The sideline reporting was amazing in that it showed the emotion as events were developing and you could see the excitement in the students faces. I too thought playing the matches in a row really helped keep the audiences attention. Only piece of advice here is that there needed to be a scoreboard of some sort on TV.

I couldn't agree more. The way that the show was put together was, I though, phenomenal. And the brevity of the entire broadcast meant that it was more engaging for the person not involved with FIRST than it would have been otherwise. It's programs like this that can really expand FIRST even further, and make FRC a more widely-known program.

Ed Law 17-04-2011 13:34

Re: Michigan State Championship
 
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Originally Posted by Pat McCarthy (Post 1053553)
I recorded the ABC broadcast in Standard Def on my computer and cut out the commercials. The end credits says the copyright belongs to FIRST in Michigan, so if I get an ok from them, I think that allows me to post it online. Anybody know if this is an accurate assumption?

I know I would have to wait until all of the ABC affiliates air the program, so as not to detract from the ratings before I could do anything with it though.

I checked with Gail Alpert from FiM. She loves the idea of posting that online. However she prefers if we can post the HD version of it. Did anybody record it in HD? Also FiM has a channel already on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/user/FIRSTinMichigan

I believe Team 2337 took all those match videos and Clinton maintains that channel. I would like to have the ABC broadcast uploaded into that channel. I will have all the videos linked from the FiM website.

Basel A 17-04-2011 13:40

Re: Michigan State Championship
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Law (Post 1053779)
Also FiM has a channel already on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/user/FIRSTinMichigan

I believe Team 2337 took all those match videos and Clinton maintains that channel. I would like to have the ABC broadcast uploaded into that channel. I will have all the videos linked from the FiM website.

The produced broadcast is certainly in a class of its own, but yes, we do have the FiM videos up. If anyone did record the broadcast in HD, we'd be glad to have it, or even have you upload it. Check with Clinton.

We're also in the process of moving HD (1080p) to youtube, and are getting to Troy currently (thanks to Jared; it was originally his pet project and he continues to run the program). See http://www.youtube.com/user/jfmiles94

J_Miles 17-04-2011 14:01

Re: Michigan State Championship
 
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Originally Posted by Basel A (Post 1053782)
We're also in the process of moving HD (1080p) to youtube, and are getting to Troy currently (thanks to Jared; it was originally his pet project and he continues to run the program). See http://www.youtube.com/user/jfmiles94

For right now, the videos on my channel are only of 2337's matches, as I've had trouble with figuring out a good way to streamline the upload process (when each video is approximately 250 MB and I have 100+, it's difficult to tend to the attempts). For next year, I'd like to see if I can't find a way to get all of the videos online with similar video quality and improved audio.

Regardless, hopefully you all can find something worth watching on the channel!

Clinton Bolinger 17-04-2011 14:57

Re: Michigan State Championship
 
If someone would like to send me a copy of the broadcast, I will be sure to post it on the www.youtube.com/FIRSTinMichigan channel.


-Clinton-

FoleyEngineer 17-04-2011 15:54

Re: Michigan State Championship
 
I recorded it in HD. I can see if I can post it on the YouTube channel. I'm not sure if there's a limit to how long a video can be. I'd be surprised if you can post an hour-long video. I might need to do it in pieces.

I'll see what I can do and post back here when I have something to report.

Take care,
John

P.S. I agree. It was great! My only suggestion would have been to show the "real-time" score as the matches progressed. Looking at a wall of tubes just isn't the same - especially for new viewers. All other sports do it, and with how fast the score changes, it's pretty helpful.

J_Miles 17-04-2011 16:01

Re: Michigan State Championship
 
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Originally Posted by FoleyEngineer (Post 1053819)
My only suggestion would have been to show the "real-time" score as the matches progressed. Looking at a wall of tubes just isn't the same - especially for new viewers. All other sports do it, and with how fast the score changes, it's pretty helpful.

I think the difficulty there was integrating the FMS scoring with the broadcast score. Also, unlike in other sports, FRC Match scores are only tentative, and aren't always correct in real-time. I think that not showing a running score would cause less confusion with people who would see one match score when the timer hit zero and a completely different score after penalties were figured and minibots scored.

Patrick Seeney 17-04-2011 16:16

Re: Michigan State Championship
 
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Originally Posted by J_Miles (Post 1053822)
I think the difficulty there was integrating the FMS scoring with the broadcast score. Also, unlike in other sports, FRC Match scores are only tentative, and aren't always correct in real-time. I think that not showing a running score would cause less confusion with people who would see one match score when the timer hit zero and a completely different score after penalties were figured and minibots scored.

This broadcast was all put together post competition. With all the camera angles and production notes taken, they could have kept the score relative to what was happening. I understand that the score at the end changes...but that is part of the suspense, especially in those really close matches.

FoleyEngineer 17-04-2011 16:40

Re: Michigan State Championship
 
Well, I'm uploading it now. It's a 6gb file (hey,it's HD!). I installed the YouTube Advanced Video File Upload option, sowe'll see... I wouldn't be surprised if YouTube kills it because it was recorded off the air and they usually call that a copyright infringement. It does contain all the ads and everything so that might help, but I doubt it.

I'm uploading it right now at about 500kb per second. With 6gb to go, that works out to about 30 hours!

PayneTrain 17-04-2011 16:47

Re: Michigan State Championship
 
They will only kill a video when requested by the owner of the copyright. You have permission to do it anyway, so there shouldn't be a big deal at all.

Patrick Seeney 17-04-2011 17:15

Re: Michigan State Championship
 
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Originally Posted by FoleyEngineer (Post 1053830)
Well, I'm uploading it now. It's a 6gb file (hey,it's HD!). I installed the YouTube Advanced Video File Upload option, sowe'll see... I wouldn't be surprised if YouTube kills it because it was recorded off the air and they usually call that a copyright infringement. It does contain all the ads and everything so that might help, but I doubt it.

I'm uploading it right now at about 500kb per second. With 6gb to go, that works out to about 30 hours!

Are you uploading the raw footage? I am not sure what editing suite you use, but Final Cut Studio has a program called compressor. You can easily compress that video down to a manageable size and still maintain the quality. I believe there is a youtube setting already in there, but you can easily play around with the many many settings it has.

FoleyEngineer 17-04-2011 19:45

Re: Michigan State Championship
 
I decided to transcode it to DivX in an AVI wrapper. That got it down to 1.6gb. Should be done in 470 minutes. We'll see!

ajlapp 18-04-2011 11:29

Re: Michigan State Championship
 
Did this get posted?? Whats the title? Thanks.


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