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Stephen Liggett 02-04-2011 18:03

3539 Michigan powerhouse rookie team
 
The Byting Bulldogs (3539) can really hold their own. In the Troy district elimination pairings I was shocked to see the poor 2nd seed rookie team (3539) pass up:
4th 217 - the thunder chickens (district / regional winner twice this year)
5th 245 - The adambots (district / regional finalist twice this year)
6th 33 - The Killer Bees (District winner once this year)

to choose 7th seed 1718 The Fighting Pi (district semifinalist) and 2586.

What's more amazing is that they went three matches in the semifinals against the 217, 33 and 440 and beat them good.

Then in the finals they gave the 1st seeded team 2337, 469 (3rd seed team) and 3548 a run for their money. In the third match they lost but it could have gone either way.


When I went to look at how they've done in other competitions I realized they knocked my team out in the finals at the Waterford district.

Great job to 3539! and beware of some of those higher numbers.


GaryVoshol 02-04-2011 21:08

Re: 3539 Michigan powerhouse rookie team
 
3539 was the 3rd seed at Troy. After 2337 was declined by 217, they picked 469. 217 then picked 33. So the only higher seeded team that 3539 passed up in favor of 1718 was 245.

3539 is the real thing. Beside leading the alliance (3539/1718/2586) that beat 217/33/3450(replaced by 440) in the semifinals, they also won the Rookie All-Star award at both Troy and Waterford.

apalrd 02-04-2011 21:31

Re: 3539 Michigan powerhouse rookie team
 
Clarification on rankings/picks:

#1 seed (2337 Enginerds) picked #4 seed (469 Las Guerillas).
#2 seed (217 Thunderchickens) picked #6 seed (33 Killer Bees).
#3 seed (3539) picked 1718 (Fighting Pi), who was their mentor team. Both teams (3539 and 1718) have almost identical robots (clearly they are clones but have diverged in modifications post-bag, especially in the minibot domain)

The #3 alliance beat the #2 alliance in the semi-finals and went on to take the finals to 3 matches. I think that, had all robots and minibots been working fully, any one of those three alliances could have won.

XXShadowXX 02-04-2011 21:35

Re: 3539 Michigan powerhouse rookie team
 
I believe this is the case, but nonetheless it is a great showing.

kenavt 02-04-2011 21:59

Re: 3539 Michigan powerhouse rookie team
 
I, along with other members of our team, were definitely surprised by 3539 in qualifications. Then, in the semifinals, when 3539, 1718, and 2584 beat 217, 33, and 440, our admiration hit another level. As the announcer said after 3539 received their Highest Rookie Seed and Rookie Al-Star awards, 3539 clearly looks like they're here to stay!

Bjenks548 02-04-2011 22:03

Re: 3539 Michigan powerhouse rookie team
 
As their alliance partners at Waterford, this is not the average rookie team. They were amazing tube hangers and now it sounds like have a quick minibot. I look forward to playing with them at states!

Norman J 02-04-2011 22:09

Re: 3539 Michigan powerhouse rookie team
 
Agree with all comments above. Congrats to 3539 and their mentor team, 1718. We played some good matches in the Semi's and look forward to playing with and against you next week!

Stephen Liggett 02-04-2011 22:09

Re: 3539 Michigan powerhouse rookie team
 
Quote:

Clarification on rankings/picks:

#1 seed (2337 Enginerds) picked #4 seed (469 Las Guerillas).
#2 seed (217 Thunderchickens) picked #6 seed (33 Killer Bees).
#3 seed (3539) picked 1718 (Fighting Pi), who was their mentor team. Both teams (3539 and 1718) have almost identical robots (clearly they are clones but have diverged in modifications post-bag, especially in the minibot domain)

The #3 alliance beat the #2 alliance in the semi-finals and went on to take the finals to 3 matches. I think that, had all robots and minibots been working fully, any one of those three alliances could have won.
Unfortunately, I was watching from the webcast. and based the rankings off of the FIRSTwebsite.

MeganMiesel815 02-04-2011 22:12

Re: 3539 Michigan powerhouse rookie team
 
I think they are one of the best rookies I have seen since 2337 in overdrive.

Tom Line 02-04-2011 22:28

Re: 3539 Michigan powerhouse rookie team
 
Their minibot is pretty quick, as is their deployment.

The truly amazing part is that they had absolutely no deployment system 2 days before the competition. We worked with them on a couple initial ideas but had to stop to work on our robot. They went back to drawing board and put together an effective system in the last 3 hours they had out of the bag. One of our programmers worked with them to get their solenoids firing in sequence the night and morning before matches began.

In addition, they managed to put together enough money for states in about 2 weeks. Pretty neat!

GaryVoshol 03-04-2011 07:27

Re: 3539 Michigan powerhouse rookie team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Liggett (Post 1048534)
Unfortunately, I was watching from the webcast. and based the rankings off of the FIRSTwebsite.

For some reason, the website standings page is incomplete. For example, 217 did not have a DQ; their actual record is 10-2. The FMS system had the correct rankings. This phenomenon was also noted at another District overnight Fri/Sat.

JosephC 03-04-2011 12:57

Re: 3539 Michigan powerhouse rookie team
 
I heard from someone on 2337 at troy that their arm was built completely by 1718. Either way good job 3539!

Zach O 03-04-2011 13:03

Re: 3539 Michigan powerhouse rookie team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JosephC (Post 1048699)
I heard from someone on 2337 at troy that their arm was built completely by 1718. Either way good job 3539!

I can say for sure that no one on 2337 would know that for sure. If they did say that, it would be purely speculation.

However, their arms do look very similar. Great performance by both teams. The finals matches were ones to remember!

pfreivald 03-04-2011 16:00

Re: 3539 Michigan powerhouse rookie team
 
It's always wonderful to hear of a highly successful rookie team, regardless of (or perhaps because of?) a great relationship with a mentor team.

Great job, 3539!

Jeffy 03-04-2011 17:53

Re: 3539 Michigan powerhouse rookie team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pfreivald (Post 1048781)
It's always wonderful to hear of a highly successful rookie team, regardless of (or perhaps because of?) a great relationship with a mentor team.

Great job, 3539!

It's more exciting to hear that a veteran team is teaching a new team to be successful (and it's working).

On a note about their robot:
I haven't seen much of the michigan competitions, but that robot there is stupidly simple. I love it. A person with one eye and half a brain could look at it and know exactly how it works Thats awesome!


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