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BrandonD-1528 05-04-2011 06:05

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I didn't use a tracert, but MaxMind GeoIP, which is known for being extremely accurate.

Jack Jones 05-04-2011 06:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonD-1528 (Post 1049364)
To be more specific, we found it traces to somewhere near the corner of 5-mile and Farmington in Livonia, which happens to be near the location of Churchill High School.

That's even closer to Parkview Memorial Cemetery. Maybe you should call Ghost Busters? :rolleyes:

Isaac501 05-04-2011 08:09

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So have you fixed the SQL injection vulnerability?

I'd do that instead of caring who did it. They were nice enough to let you know that you need to get your act together instead of thrashing your site.

gblake 05-04-2011 08:56

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Originally Posted by Isaac501 (Post 1049652)
... I'd do that instead of caring who did it. They were nice enough to let you know that you need to get your act together instead of thrashing your site.

Wrong on so many levels.

Joe Ross 05-04-2011 09:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonD-1528 (Post 1049364)
To be more specific, we found it traces to somewhere near the corner of 5-mile and Farmington in Livonia, which happens to be near the location of Churchill High School.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonD-1528 (Post 1049636)
I didn't use a tracert, but MaxMind GeoIP, which is known for being extremely accurate.

I think you're tremendously overstating the accuracy of IP geolocation. I just tried MaxMind GeoIP, and it got my current location wrong by 175 miles, and my home wrong by 30 miles. Drawing any conclusions about what high school it might be will only lead to trouble.

BrandonD-1528 05-04-2011 21:56

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MaxMind has some odd options. Someone else ran it, and it was spot on my place, so I assumed any other output would be just as accurate. I don't want to point any fingers (as I think I said before), just pointing out a possibility (which seems to get me into trouble for some reason).

Jack Jones 05-04-2011 23:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonD-1528 (Post 1050081)
MaxMind has some odd options. Someone else ran it, and it was spot on my place, so I assumed any other output would be just as accurate. I don't want to point any fingers (as I think I said before), just pointing out a possibility (which seems to get me into trouble for some reason).

If you didn’t want to point any fingers, then why did you point out that 5 Mile and Farmington are “near” Livonia Churchill High School? The fact is that Churchill is about 4-1/2 miles from that location. Just about any location in S.E. Michigan is within 4-1/2 miles from a high school. There must be hundreds, if not thousands, of active IPs within such a 4-1/2 mile radius. Your mention of Churchill was indeed pointing a finger. You need to stop playing internet sleuth before you end up embarrassing yourself and your team any further.

gblake 06-04-2011 01:13

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Originally Posted by Jack Jones (Post 1050141)
You need to stop playing internet sleuth before you end up embarrassing yourself and your team any further.

No - He just needs to learn to only announce final results instead of incomplete possibilities.

The internet sleuthing is educational, interesting and valuable.

My opinion is that Brandon's skill level and progress are similar to the skill levels and progress of thousands of students who play engineer and/or computer scientist each year in STEM robotics competitions.

Let's not celebrate one set of (often clumsy) efforts and denigrate the other (often clumsy) set.

Instead, maybe we can choose to guide/mentor both.

Blake

BrandonD-1528 06-04-2011 05:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Jones (Post 1050141)
If you didn’t want to point any fingers, then why did you point out that 5 Mile and Farmington are “near” Livonia Churchill High School? The fact is that Churchill is about 4-1/2 miles from that location. Just about any location in S.E. Michigan is within 4-1/2 miles from a high school. There must be hundreds, if not thousands, of active IPs within such a 4-1/2 mile radius. Your mention of Churchill was indeed pointing a finger. You need to stop playing internet sleuth before you end up embarrassing yourself and your team any further.

My apologies for that. Someone told me that those roads were the corner where the school was located. I do feel kinda stupid now for not checking that for myself.

JesseK 06-04-2011 10:04

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$10 says it was one of your own team's programmers just trying to have some fun by experimenting with different things. It's more curiosity than malicious intent.

BrandonD-1528 06-04-2011 14:30

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I can guarantee you that it was not our team, since none of the members except me have the knowledge to do such a thing, and I didn't hack our own site. I am sure however that the intent was not malicious, but I still don't appreciate that type of thing happening.

TJ92 06-04-2011 16:14

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The issue is resolved. It was a student at our high school (non-team member).

Thank you Brandon for embarrassing our team (again) by inferring that another team may have done this before thoroughly investigating the actions taken. Mr. Ketron will know about what you have done, and what the other student has done before MSC. I would like to say that a lesson should have been learned from this, but with you lessons never are learned.

Chris is me 06-04-2011 16:16

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For what it's worth, the above post embarrassed your team more than anything Brandon did.

Please, for the sake of your team, keep your dirty laundry out of the public eye.

AdamHeard 06-04-2011 16:17

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Originally Posted by TJ92 (Post 1050373)
The issue is resolved. It was a student at our high school (non-team member).

Thank you Brandon for embarrassing our team (again) by inferring that another team may have done this before thoroughly investigating the actions taken. Mr. Ketron will know about what you have done, and what the other student has done before MSC. I would like to say that a lesson should have been learned from this, but with you lessons never are learned.

Your public reaction and criticism is definitely more embarrassing than everything Brandon said/did.

As a leader on your team, you should set a higher example.

JesseK 06-04-2011 16:39

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Dang, looks like I owe someone...

Close though.


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