Re: Hacked (For real this time)
 

For what its worth 99% of the time I would completely agree with you, however given the situation, which you do not fully know, I believe my actions to be wholly justified. It is not in the best interest of anyone to take strong action after one or two offenses, and I assure you I am not reacting this way because of one or two offenses. This whole situation makes me sick and I wish this thread didn't exist, however it does.

All I meant to communicate in my post above was that the situation was solved and MTR did not condone the actions taken by one student.

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I'm not judging your actions toward the student - I am judging your public conduct as a member and representative leader of a robotics team.

If you honestly can read your message and see nothing wrong with its format, location, and presentation - you should not be in a position to be lecturing or punishing other students.

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As a team president, I wouldn't call out my teammates on CD. I would talk to them at a meeting, or email them, but I wouldn't air internal matters and team politics in front of the entire FIRST community. Doing that reflects badly on your team.

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You're right. Looking back at that after I've calmed down I conducted myself horribly. I don't mean to make excuses but I was under a lot of self-induced stress to get all the scouting excel docs for this weeks competition done. In my stress I acted in the most poor way possible that I could have. There is nothing I can do to take my own words back, but I shouldn't have ever written them.

I made myself look foolish and stupid, I think I deserve it after those two posts. Please don't look down on the rest of my team because of my mistake, they don't deserve it.

Re: Hacked (For real this time)
 

Folks,

Some people believe that it is impossible to non-trivially separate teams' collective identities and reputations from those of individual FIRST participants who also happen to be members of those teams.

And , I know that there are plenty of folks who choose to organize and evaluate their FIRST experiences using the "Any member's mistake is the entire team's mistake" approach.

Well, for what it is worth, I'm not one of those people, and there are quite a few others who have similar attitudes. I recommend worrying less about "team reputations" and more about individuals.

I know there are plenty of folks with other opinions. That's OK. My point is that it's OK to dial back the "We need to be Stepford FIRSTers" just a bit, because... It's OK to view the world through a lens other than that one, if you care to.

Blake

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For the record, I believe that what Trevor said was (somewhat) fair, and with all the stress lately, I can understand how he would slip up and post something he shouldn't have. I've done it enough to where I can't really blame someone else who does it. With that, I'd like to see that particular topic end with this post.

In addition, the attack located in Livonia (provided it actually was from there, is probably not the same person that successfully hacked the site. A lot of other attempts to access our admin panel have been made, with no success. I have this message for everyone who has or plans to try something: our panel is no longer vulnerable to SQL injection. In addition, the login is not a simple one, so trying more generic logins will get you nowhere.

Thank you to everyone who posted a constructive response.

Re: Hacked (For real this time)
 

When posts from a team member having the title "Leadership" are directed toward or mention other team members by name, the connection is hard to ignore. When those posts claim explicitly to be speaking for the team itself, it is not reasonable to try to separate the person from the team.

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Perhaps - Then again, perhaps not. In the sense pertinent to this topic, we are obviously dealing with amateurs, novices and (very often) loosely organized entities. I don't care to confer more authority or gravitas on those people or organizations with than they deserve.

Except in carefully controlled circumstances, I first do my best to invoke healthy skepticism that the larger, and typically quite diverse, groups are truly represented by any one person's actions or utterances. If I do invoke a "You are besmirching your team" attitude, I try to do that much latter in the process/conversation.

I feel that to do otherwise is to ignore overwhelming evidence that the individuals (especially students) typically do not speak or act for their teams in the pertinent controversial settings.

To look at it from another angle, try this: I dislike compounding someone else's mistakes by making one myself (by allowing my opinion of the entire team's reputation to become conflated with my opinion of the one member).

Blake