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falconmaster 05-04-2011 09:22

Two Tube Autonomous Repeated 14 Times!
 
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B44...dhO GI1&hl=en

synth3tk 05-04-2011 09:32

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Way off-topic, but how did you manage to upload a video to GDocs? I've never seen that before.

And to keep this post somewhat on-topic: That's amazing! What is the light beam used for? Tube recognition?

BrendanB 05-04-2011 09:32

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Nice! Just curious as to how you plan to set this up with your partner. From the looks of it you would be running into your partner with how far the robot comes back and turns.

Good luck in St. Louis!

Jeffy 05-04-2011 09:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 1049677)
Nice! Just curious as to how you plan to set this up with your partner. From the looks of it you would be running into your partner with how far the robot comes back and turns.

Good luck in St. Louis!

It appears they have bumpers set up on the floor to simulate another robot. This is truly impressive, well done!

Dancin103 05-04-2011 10:12

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This is awesome! Great work! :)

Tom Bottiglieri 05-04-2011 10:12

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Impressive. Has anyone else done this without an active pickup?

Chris is me 05-04-2011 10:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 1049696)
Impressive. Has anyone else done this without an active pickup?

Does anyone else not have an active pickup :rolleyes:

Hjelstrom 05-04-2011 10:40

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Very nice! The laser is a great idea too.

jspatz1 05-04-2011 11:02

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Hopefully you have another method of aiming for competition, the GDC has ruled that laser pointers are not allowed.

Make sure your peg heights are correct. The outer pegs are 8" lower than the center peg.

JB987 05-04-2011 11:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jspatz1 (Post 1049717)
Hopefully you have another method of aiming for competition, the GDC has ruled that laser pointers are not allowed.

Make sure your peg heights are correct. The outer pegs are 8" lower than the center peg.

Specifically R02 d. Maybe it's just a concentrated lcd/led beam? Whatever it is, it's still cool though!

jspatz1 05-04-2011 11:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JB987 (Post 1049718)
Specifically R02 d. Maybe it's just a concentrated lcd/led beam? Whatever it is, it's still cool though!

Also addressed in the Q&A forum. Search 'laser" in the Robot forum. This topic has come up many times.

MrForbes 05-04-2011 11:43

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They're using the laser to see where they are for testing, it won't be used in competition. Pretty clever, using a laser to check how accurately you can line it up using the tape stripes on the field.

(I think that's what Steve told me last night)

ESPbomb 05-04-2011 12:38

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Eric from Team 610 here. A couple of teams could hang 2 ubertubes at Greater Toronto Regionals. Teams 2056 OP Robotics and Team 1114 Simbotics both did it consistently.

nikeairmancurry 05-04-2011 13:42

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From the looks of it that set-up is immpossible.. Because of how far out the tower sticks out from the lane... The second tube is almost always 50% infront of the second robot...

MagiChau 05-04-2011 13:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry (Post 1049771)
From the looks of it that set-up is immpossible.. Because of how far out the tower sticks out from the lane... The second tube is almost always 50% infront of the second robot...

I think they can get the other robot to be at enough of an angle for clearance to grab the tube.

Tom Bottiglieri 05-04-2011 13:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1049700)
Does anyone else not have an active pickup :rolleyes:

Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell over the internet. I think my point was pretty clear.

TheOtherGuy 05-04-2011 14:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 1049777)
Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell over the internet. I think my point was pretty clear.

I think your original message was a little strange, considering 842 has an active pickup.

842 just keeps getting better this year... now for the 3 tube auto? ;)

AdamHeard 05-04-2011 14:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOtherGuy (Post 1049779)
I think your original message was a little strange, considering 842 has an active pickup.

842 just keeps getting better this year... now for the 3 tube auto? ;)

I believe Tom meant active pickup to mean something with rollers or conveyors.

Tom Bottiglieri 05-04-2011 14:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1049780)
I believe Tom meant active pickup to mean something with rollers or conveyors.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

Andrew Schreiber 05-04-2011 14:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 1049696)
Impressive. Has anyone else done this without an active pickup?

217 at Troy.

Chris is me 05-04-2011 15:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 1049777)
Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell over the internet. I think my point was pretty clear.

I was being sarcastic - plenty of teams have pinchers. I was more or less implying that any team with the resources to do this probably had a roller claw this year, since they are quite popular and effective.

TEE 05-04-2011 16:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 1049696)
Impressive. Has anyone else done this without an active pickup?

469 at Troy

Grim Tuesday 05-04-2011 17:54

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217 has a non-active pickup, and it works quite well. I haven't seen them with a two tube auto, but then again, I haven't seen them play since FLR.

MrForbes 05-04-2011 17:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1049806)
I was more or less implying that any team with the resources to do this probably had a roller claw this year, since they are quite popular and effective.

842 had the resources to make an innovative arm that doesn't need an active pickup mechanism.

It's a neat robot, should be fun to watch it with pneumatics in StL

J_Miles 05-04-2011 18:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday (Post 1049891)
217 has a non-active pickup, and it works quite well. I haven't seen them with a two tube auto, but then again, I haven't seen them play since FLR.

Both 217 ThunderChickens and 469 Las Guerrillas have a "grabbing" style (or non-active, as we're calling it here, I guess) pickup, and have a two-tube autonomous. 33 Killer Bees also have a two-tube autonomous, although their pickup uses rollers. All three used their two-tube autonomous programs at the Troy District Competition this past weekend; however, there was some measure of inconsistency for all three teams.

217 and 33 seemed to be having troubles with their programs during the semifinals, an issue that I credit partially with their elimination in the semis; however, 469's program worked flawlessly in the two finals matches that their alliance won. In fact, in Finals Matches 1 and 3, the Red Alliance was able to score all three ubertubes with only two robots capable of scoring in autonomous.

Nick Rixford 05-04-2011 20:11

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Great job! I like the concept of the double auto but i do not see it being used much in St. Louis. Most teams will probably have a well developed auto mode. Then again that is just me assuming since it is nationals haha.

Rangel 05-04-2011 20:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Rixford (Post 1050010)
Great job! I like the concept of the double auto but i do not see it being used much in St. Louis. Most teams will probably have a well developed auto mode. Then again that is just me assuming since it is nationals haha.

During the finals it may be useless but in qualifying, many teams last year did not have an autonomous or are still working on it and we expect the same this year. Also who knows, the third robot maybe a super defensive box bot.:D

TEE 05-04-2011 20:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Rixford (Post 1050010)
Great job! I like the concept of the double auto but i do not see it being used much in St. Louis. Most teams will probably have a well developed auto mode. Then again that is just me assuming since it is nationals haha.

just wait :rolleyes:

jspatz1 06-04-2011 00:23

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Is this a practice bot?

davidthefat 06-04-2011 00:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1049806)
I was being sarcastic - plenty of teams have pinchers. I was more or less implying that any team with the resources to do this probably had a roller claw this year, since they are quite popular and effective.

I will tell you: trying to pick anything up with the pincer we had, I was very surprised I even managed to put any tubes up during competition let alone score with them...

s_forbes 06-04-2011 00:39

Re: Two Tube Autonomous Repeated 14 Times!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jspatz1 (Post 1049717)
Hopefully you have another method of aiming for competition, the GDC has ruled that laser pointers are not allowed.

Make sure your peg heights are correct. The outer pegs are 8" lower than the center peg.

Unfortunately peg height is limited by our ceiling. We'd cut out a hole, but the school wouldn't like that much.

As for the laser, squirrel was correct. We were only using it to double check our alignment to make sure we had consistent tests. Real robot is planned to have a scope.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry (Post 1049771)
From the looks of it that set-up is immpossible.. Because of how far out the tower sticks out from the lane... The second tube is almost always 50% infront of the second robot...

We'll have to double check the starting positions again, but I'm pretty sure the plan for the auto seen is to start on the left side of the field, going for middle peg first. Changing the arm heights is not difficult, the hard part was making it land on two adjacent pegs consistently. Thanks for pointing that out, though... would not be a good thing to realize on Thursday at St. Louis!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Rixford (Post 1050010)
Great job! I like the concept of the double auto but i do not see it being used much in St. Louis. Most teams will probably have a well developed auto mode. Then again that is just me assuming since it is nationals haha.

With the amount of work going into it, I sure hope that it pays off! We think most of the qualifying matches won't have 3 auto-scoring robots on an alliance, so this give an extra 6 (potentially 12) points per match.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspatz1 (Post 1050164)
Is this a practice bot?

Yes, this is the practice robot. It's getting a lot of miles.


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