Team Update #21
 

http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles...pdate%2021.pdf

Nothing new, just a reiteration of the Q&A about allowable devices during Alliance selection.

Re: Team Update #21
 

So does this mean that regionals can't stop teams from using their iPlaid machine for alliance selection, or is it still "house rules"?

Re: Team Update #21
 

I would assume if you could hand a copy of the team update to the head ref, it would be allowed. However as always, head ref's have the final say, so technically they can overrule it, but I doubt any would overrule a team update.

Re: Team Update #21
 

Does this mean you can take a phone onto the field for alliance selections and have a conversation with the people in the stands?

Re: Team Update #21
 

It should not have to come down to a team update. I never saw a rule against it and there should have never been any regionals not allowing it.

Re: Team Update #21
 

I believe that Phones are allowed, or at least if you said that you were collaborating with your team members - which you would be.

Re: Team Update #21
 

<T25> and <T26> would seem to disallow this

Emphisis mine.

Re: Team Update #21
 

I think those rules apply to matches and game play, not to alliance selection.
No one is inside the Alliance Station.

Re: Team Update #21
 

Well, at least the Magic 8 Ball is safe...

Re: Team Update #21
 

Please state where in the rules that alliance selection is not included.

Just because you aren't playing the game doesn't exclude you from being on an element required to play the game.

Again, Emphisis mine.

Re: Team Update #21
 

This is my feeling, as well. At all of our competitions, our team representative has carried an iPad and/or laptop onto the field during alliance selections, devices which carry our aggregated scouting data to help expedite and streamline the selection process for our team. To my knowledge, we have had no problems with event officials refusing to allow these devices on the field.

Re: Team Update #21
 

Please state where in the rules that alliance selection is included.

Re: Team Update #21
 

By your logic... no one could bring a microphone into the arena... or rollerblades... etc etc... it does not SAY this pertains only to the TEAMS.

It might be necessary to just use common sense... and past practice..
and the update information

Re: Team Update #21
 

If all the Game rules apply to Alliance Selection, then everyone gets a Penalty for entering the Field. <G28>

Re: Team Update #21
 

At Chesapeake, the ref asked the alliance captain to put his phone away.

I don't see the big deal. If you can't use electronic devices, resort to old technology. We had a dry erase board and marker. Much cheaper than an iPad or phone.

Also, have a pick list made with a few different scenarios. Choose a representative that has been given a walk through of what you expect them to do, just don't give a high school student a list of numbers.