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Koko Ed 14-04-2011 16:43

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Originally Posted by Jared341 (Post 1052908)
Last year there was either no pattern or it was complex enough that nobody was able to crack it - the assignments seemed pretty random.

I'm sure FIRST did the math. They always do the math. Just not math humans use.
It was probably given to them from NASA from the aliens so we'd quit predicting the divisions before they release it.

Chris is me 14-04-2011 16:50

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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1052881)
I think FIRST should just get to the point and just assign 177 to the Einstein division where they can await an alliance they feel like working with.

177 is far too good this year to even escape the first round. And for that reason, I think they have their lowest shot at Einstein in years. :p

Travis Hoffman 14-04-2011 17:05

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Originally Posted by Bob Steele (Post 1052907)
Travis,

thanks for doing this!!
Is there any way you could do a serpentine version of this?


See attached. And, um....

Code:


St. Catharines, ON 1114 Archimedes  67.14
Schaumburg, IL    111  Archimedes  66.34
Greenville, TX    148  Archimedes  63.88
San Jose, CA      254  Archimedes  60.39
Stoney Creek, ON  2056 Archimedes  57.29
Hopkins, MI        2054 Archimedes  53.82
Hammond, IN        71  Archimedes  49.79
League City, TX    118  Archimedes  46.72
Warren, OH        48  Archimedes  45.91

...yeah....no.

SteveGPage 14-04-2011 17:11

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Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1052918)
See attached...

...yeah....no.

What, you don't want to be the 8th seed captain against 1114/111? :)

dodar 14-04-2011 17:14

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Could you imagine if each of them picked their own alliances? OMG that would be the greatest quarterfinals ever

Travis Hoffman 14-04-2011 17:15

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Originally Posted by SteveGPage (Post 1052923)
What, you don't want to be the 8th seed captain against 1114/111? :)

We'd move up to 7th and probably 6th or more if that were a ranking list. It would be a Team IFI Royal Rumble.

The divisional balance is far, far more skewed out of whack with serpentine than with the standard sort. I kinda liked the standard sort myself. But again, this is all a pointless exercise!

dodar 14-04-2011 17:20

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How about instead of doing the divisions with the 348 teams that are in, do a divisional breakdown with the top 348 OPR teams and then see how the divisions would breakdown with the same sort you did the first time.

Travis Hoffman 14-04-2011 17:26

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Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1052931)
How about instead of doing the divisions with the 348 teams that are in, do a divisional breakdown with the top 348 OPR teams and then see how the divisions would breakdown with the same sort you did the first time.

Probably about as balanced as you're going to get.

I wonder if FIRST even considers sorting like this. Attachment:

dodar 14-04-2011 17:29

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You didnt do it with the top 348 teams with the highest OPR

Travis Hoffman 14-04-2011 17:30

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Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1052934)
You didnt do it with the top 348 teams with the highest OPR

I sorted by Average OPR for all 348 CMP teams and then assigned A-C-G-N.

I think what you are suggesting is just a bit too unrealistic, even for this thread, because teams staying home with higher OPR's than CMP participating teams are still not going to attend the CMP this year....

I leave anything else as an exercise for the reader. :cool:

AlecMataloni 14-04-2011 17:42

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:D Oh man... If somehow that was our actual division...

SteveGarward 14-04-2011 17:50

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I prefer the first attempt with 111 and 3132 in the same division. No real reason, just a strange personal bias. :)

J_Miles 14-04-2011 18:06

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Originally Posted by tim-tim (Post 1052837)
Newton looks pretty challenging...

Newton and Curie both are stacked! As for Galileo...I'm surprised by the paucity of big names. It seems like most of those powerhouse teams are either on Curie or Newton, although Archimedes is also strong. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but it seems like Galileo is probably the "weakest" comparatively; however, that doesn't mean much considering it's championship and ALL of the divisions would be challenging.

Richard Wallace 14-04-2011 18:07

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FAKE Galileo looks like the place to be.

JVN, Bill Beatty, Amir Abo-Shaeer, John Novak, ... that's a lot of awesomeness, just in a quick glance near the top of this FAKE list.

Oh yeah, and in FAKE Galileo you can pick 67 or 469 ....

ATannahill 14-04-2011 18:12

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A 349th challenger appears.


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