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Norman J 22-04-2011 21:26

Re: The Pink Team 3 Tube Autonomous
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperNerd256 (Post 1055689)
But does it work with 2 other robots on the field, possibly in the way?

It looks like the tubes are positioned so they can be placed in front of their two alliance partners, ensuring neither of them get in the way as long as they do not move.

Adam Freeman 22-04-2011 21:42

Re: The Pink Team 3 Tube Autonomous
 
Amazing!

Quote:

Originally Posted by JABot67 (Post 1055639)
To Jay, Taylor, Luke, Deanna, and all you 67 programmers (I know you read these forums): Do this.

Don't even thing about it. Focus on one or two tubes.

Kevin Sevcik 22-04-2011 21:50

Re: The Pink Team 3 Tube Autonomous
 
Honestly, I was totally expecting Rick Astley on the other side of that link. The idea was that ridiculous to me. Which just goes to show my lack of imagination. Very well done guys.

Mr. Lim 22-04-2011 22:06

Re: The Pink Team 3 Tube Autonomous
 
This is the reason why I do FIRST...

Bravo!

tr6scott 22-04-2011 22:19

Re: The Pink Team 3 Tube Autonomous
 
Very Nice, After I saw 33 do two at Kettering at week 1, I would see 3...
(Not from our team...)
BRAVO!

musicgurl1329 22-04-2011 23:01

Re: The Pink Team 3 Tube Autonomous
 
Absolutely wonderful. Good luck in Saint Louis! (I'll be cheering from Archimedes for you guys!)

SuzyQ.42 22-04-2011 23:07

Re: The Pink Team 3 Tube Autonomous
 
If only standing ovations were possible over the Internet. Congratulations, Pink Team! This is amazing.

davepowers 22-04-2011 23:18

Re: The Pink Team 3 Tube Autonomous
 
:O, truly incredible. This is why I can honestly say you guys are one of my favorite teams out there. Can't wait to see you guys down in St.Louis, I believe you'll actually be in the pit right next to us, so stop by if you even need anything!

penguinfrk 22-04-2011 23:47

Re: The Pink Team 3 Tube Autonomous
 
Four of four successes? Insane!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1055651)
I don't think this would be possible for anyone who has to turn around to pick up each subsequent tube.

Maybe if your alliance partners helped push the ubertubes closer to the rack, then backed off.....

J_Miles 23-04-2011 00:31

Re: The Pink Team 3 Tube Autonomous
 
Absolutely stunning. The crazy part is that it doesn't LOOK that fast on video, yet it's done very close to being perfectly in time (hard to judge from the video). Getting something like that working, even in the shop, is a huge accomplishment. Now if you can do it during a match at St. Louis, THAT will be impressive!

Brian Ha 23-04-2011 09:11

Re: The Pink Team 3 Tube Autonomous
 
Great... Were in the same division. LOL jk. It will be crazy! And although galieo will be the one to watch newton will definately have something to show for!!!

The Lucas 23-04-2011 11:26

Re: The Pink Team 3 Tube Autonomous
 
Congrats, I didn't think anyone would be fast enough to get 3 Ubers under the 15 sec time limit in the regular season. It looks like you may just do it.

I would say I hope you get an opportunity to run it in a qualification match, but that is probably a double edged sword. There are only 3 situations where I can see myself trying that risky for the first time in a CMP qualifying match
1. My partners both have no/low percentage autonomous so it is the only good choice.
2. A late match, where the rest of the alliance has little chance of making elims so try just try it.
3. Blowout highly likely, go for style points :cool: For example if the scheduler decided to mathcup 148/217/233 vs. a negative OPR alliance (the kind of match last year where smart opposition would go 6v0, we faced 217 with a good alliance last year and quickly wrote an auto that scored for them)
2 of those 3 options are not favorable. I think they will get several opportunities to run a double Uber since not everyone at CMP has a consistent enough auto, but it is hard to give up a sure Uber on the other side to roll the dice. I know at Philly some teams came into the strategy meeting asking us to run our double instead of their auto because the percentages were better (we were on a long streak of hitting 2)

I am not even sure they will get a chance to practice it on Thursday morning. Everyone wants to check that their auto works, especially if it is not consistent. Maybe in later practice matches, some fill teams and/or teams with tested consistent auto will allow them to try it. Personally, I am concerned that my team will not get enough opportunities to run a 2 tube auto to confirm that it will work on this Curie field (It worked so well on Philly field, and I don't even want to think about the switch to Archi). The thing about using only encoders and gyro (like Pink, us and most of the 2 tube teams) is the auto is repeatable, but not adaptable (to differences in setup or field). When we run a single tube, we have time to use ultrasonics to adapt to a difference from the expected distance. Pink's gripper is amazing, but I don't know how many inches of tolerance they have when they are intentionally grabbing the tube offset so far to the left (for our experience, once we got the distance correct, all our misses are setup errors where we miss the grab on a misplaced tube).

(Note: I wrote this in 2 parts, I just realized how tl;dr it turned out. I guess multi tube auto is just on my mind)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BJC (Post 1055642)
..Plus I won my early season bet with Ike. Thank you Pink Team, you just made my day.

I hope IKE knows better than to make wagers on what robots can achieve in their shop. I thought it was standard wager policy, "Official FRC match or it didn't happen" (practice and offseason don't count either).

R1ffSurf3r 23-04-2011 11:43

Re: The Pink Team 3 Tube Autonomous
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Lucas (Post 1055821)
Pink's gripper is amazing, but I don't know how many inches of tolerance they have when they are intentionally grabbing the tube offset so far to the left (for our experience, once we got the distance correct, all our misses are setup errors where we miss the grab on a misplaced tube).

One of the cool parts about it, is that the tube is always in the right position relative to the rack, no matter where the robot picks it up. So if the robot is off a little and doesn't grab it from center, the tube will still be in the right place to score.

Travis Hoffman 23-04-2011 11:55

Re: The Pink Team 3 Tube Autonomous
 
One thing I wonder about is - that 3rd tube looks awfully close to scoring right at the 15-second mark. Do they risk scoring late and having to remove the thing at the start of teleop to avoid penalty?

The lack of any time cushion at the end makes it a risky play. But very cool regardless!

R1ffSurf3r 23-04-2011 11:58

Re: The Pink Team 3 Tube Autonomous
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1055825)
One thing I wonder about is - that 3rd tube looks awfully close to scoring right at the 15-second mark. Do they risk scoring late and having to remove the thing at the start of teleop to avoid penalty?

The lack of any time cushion at the end makes it a risky play. But very cool regardless!

about 14.5 seconds total, including the tower retracting, so I don't think its too big a problem.


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