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IKE 05-10-2011 11:13 AM

Re: 2011 Lesson Learned: The Negative
 
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Originally Posted by Debbie (Post 1060617)
To eliminate you from picks based on that is their loss in my humble opinion. Sometimes our parents, with the best of intentions, do try to "protect our territory" and the whole seating issue seems to bring out the worst in people. I would hate for someone to penalize my team because a parent who was there solely to support their child was un-gp. Sometimes you have to look at the whole team and not let one individual influence your opinion of a team. Though since it always seems to happen, we do talk to our team A LOT about not being that one person that gives the whole team a bad name.
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This comment was mostly meant to showcase that at the same team, same time, same event can be responsible for 2 drastically different opinions and results. Without having video of the particulars involved, it is hard to tell what really happened. It could have been the people involved approached the same way, but contacted different persons with different reactions. It could be that the people involved contacted the same people with different approaches that resulted in the different reactions. It could be that team 1023 was a "michigan team" and team XXXX was not. It is hard to say. I do appreciate that the teams mentor brought it to our attention as something to work on in the future.

This example hopefully also serves as a reminder that everyone "on the team" serves as a reflection of the team. In most sports, it is easy to tell the players from the parents/fans, and to write off an over-ambitious parent/fan. In FRC, many of the "players" are mentors and students in the stands sitting side by side with parents/fans who often have the uniform of the players on. Is that adult a parent a mentor or a fan? It could be all three. It could also be a random person given a Team 33 t-shirt the day before...

Because of this, I would ask for some temperance when judging a "team" either good or bad based off of the behaviour of 1-2 individuals. We cover this topic with the students 2-3 times every year.

This will also likely require another point to review with parents during the parent meetings in the future.

Debbie 05-10-2011 11:27 AM

Re: 2011 Lesson Learned: The Negative
 
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Originally Posted by JaneYoung (Post 1060628)
More seating. :)

At at regional, a team stood in front of me almost the entire time. The reason was because another team in a lower tier was standing, dancing, cheering almost the whole time and blocked the view of those first 4 or 5 rows in our tier. There were plenty of empty sections for the team to have selected if they wanted to stand but they wanted to stand there. I moved several times and took a couple of rookie mentors/parents on another team with me along for the moves - to try to stay out of the team's way and to be able to see the fields. It was annoying that the team didn't check to see if they were blocking anyone but it was worked out.

Jane

Yeah.. I'm sure the same could be said about us.. we try to pick low seats with our kids on the bottom rows and parents up higher so the team can stand on the floor to cheer which leaves the bottom rows open and the upper rows able to see over us.. but i didn't take into account the vision we were blocking of the teams beside us until after the competition was over and someone said something. So I'm sorry to the teams we blocked at MSC, Detroit or Livonia. We did correct it for Worlds and will not stand next year unless something is figured out where you can stand to cheer for your team but not block others. :)

torihoelscher 05-10-2011 02:39 PM

Re: 2011 Lesson Learned: The Negative
 
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Originally Posted by rsisk (Post 1058987)
I'm pretty sure the final driver station update shut down all network ports except the one used to communicate with the robot.

My team and I still disabled the wireless completely and turned off the firewall.

firewall+wireless=no communication with the C-RIO.


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