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waialua359 09-05-2011 17:31

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Next week is better for me, as we have a Statewide luncheon tomorrow in Waikiki, and our biggest fundraiser event at Dole Plantation on Thursday. We have about 400 guests again who bought tickets/sponsorship tables at our annual event.

jblay 09-05-2011 18:05

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Fun fact about the substitution on Einstein: I was thinking out loud in the stands that they should make the sub cause getting a team as powerful as 330 was their best chance at beating the amazingly stacked winning alliance. One of our alumni happened to have a certain mentor from 2016's phone number because of some facebook tool and decided to call him and give him my advice. The mentor picked up and answered "not now" and the alumni yelled back "check your txts" which had the advice in them. I was super worried that the 2016 mentor would take this the wrong way and have hate for 694 but he, when we ran into him later, just laughed it off and explained that 2016 felt their deployment was too slow and they needed 781 for minibot and considering 177 was having issues at the same time, they decided to hang onto their coupon and I personally think that was absolutely the right decision. The funny thing is that it looks like the alliance wasn't willing to take a risk when the risk could be their only shot at winning because they needed to get a team like 330 but the truth was they took a chance on 781 knowing that them sending up their minibot was their shot at winning the match.

Also I too had just a few issues with the refereeing on Galileo and I might have been the one, in my frustration with the refs, that started the crazy chanting about the penalty in the finals on Galileo.

Chris is me 09-05-2011 18:41

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Glenn,
That works better for me as I have finals all week and the first part of next. Feel free to send me a PM or email if you want to iron out some details.

Lowfategg 09-05-2011 21:02

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Since everyone is so interested, I will tell my perspective of what happen on Einstein while coaching 2016:

During Semi-final 2-2, 177 lost a gas shock off their arm making them unable to get tubes from the floor. They rushed the robot off of the field and made some quick repairs in the dark. They got their robot back onto the field with seconds left. Our plan was to have 781 deploy their mini-bot because we felt that we had no chance of getting 2nd or 3rd in the mini-bot race against the opposing alliance; so while 781 was deploying, we could keep scoring tubes, while still getting 4th in the mini-bot race. At the start of the match 781 died during auto-mode and 177 had some lesser troubles due to the gas shock issue in the last match. We kept the score close as we could, but without defense to slow 254 or 111 down we had no chance.

After that match, 177 made a few more tweaks to get their bot back up to 100%, while 781 took their bot off the field to do a systems check. During this time 177's mini-bot started smoking (which got the field crew to get out the fire extinguisher). Luckily, 177 has a small army of spare mini-bots. 781 checked their bot over and found no issues, they brought the bot back onto the field and tethered up to show that everything was working fine. We quickly checked with 781 and they felt everything was good, so we did not call a backup.

A lot of people say we should have called a backup. Here is my take on it. 781 died due to an issue which is still unknown, they proved their robot was working after that match. A backup is to be called when a robot is completely out of the running and can not play. 781 believed their robot was fine and ready to compete. As an alliance captain, we respect everyone equally, if 781 says they are fine, as alliance captain, I am not going to call them out for what might have been a fluke. Everyone keeps taking about how 330 or 2054 are better robots than 781 (perhaps giving us an advantage over 111 and 254), but that is not the point of a backup. We were an alliance that had played together - and we wanted to keep it that way. We believed in 781. Their play and good judgment helped us to Einstein. The entire alliance felt that they would function in the 2nd finals match. We'd make the same decision again given the circumstances.

As a note to Seth from 694, I could not hear a thing down on the field on my phone. I did read your text, but we had already decided to let 781 run. As an aside fact – the backup bot from Archimedes would have been picked at random from the finalist.

Anyway, I am planning on posting a thank you thread sometime this week. I been busy over the last week so I was unable to.

Akash Rastogi 09-05-2011 21:13

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Thanks for the explanation Tyler. I don't think most of the members of the cast were questioning your judgment on the issue. It made sense that you would want to continue with 781.

Also, sorry for not posting to the direct link, I forget that not everyone has been sucked into the mindless world of facebook just yet.:p

thefro526 09-05-2011 21:30

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Tyler, Peter, in retrospect, we may have come across as overly critical of 2016, 177 and 781, and if we did I do apologize. We were just speculating on what had happened, and since many of us were hoping that 2016 (half of EWCP are 2016 fans) would take it all, and we were disappointed to see what happened with 781.

Lowfategg 09-05-2011 21:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thefro526 (Post 1060540)
Tyler, Peter, in retrospect, we may have come across as overly critical of 2016, 177 and 781, and if we did I do apologize. We were just speculating on what had happened, and since many of us were hoping that 2016 (half of EWCP are 2016 fans) would take it all, and we were disappointed to see what happened with 781.

Its fine Dustin, you guys were fine. I just wanted to clear some of the confusion up.

Btw, any chance I can rejoin up with you guys for the off-season?

thefro526 09-05-2011 21:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowfategg (Post 1060546)
Its fine Dustin, you guys were fine. I just wanted to clear some of the confusion up.

Btw, any chance I can rejoin up with you guys for the off-season?

Only if you promise to build my robot next year. ;)

Lowfategg 09-05-2011 22:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thefro526 (Post 1060547)
Only if you promise to build my robot next year. ;)

I thought we were starting our own team? ;)

Peter Matteson 11-05-2011 13:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thefro526 (Post 1060540)
Tyler, Peter, in retrospect, we may have come across as overly critical of 2016, 177 and 781, and if we did I do apologize. We were just speculating on what had happened, and since many of us were hoping that 2016 (half of EWCP are 2016 fans) would take it all, and we were disappointed to see what happened with 781.

I understand what you were trying to do. We were trying to clear up the facts about what happened because there has been a lot of speculation.

On a lighter note we wanted to know who else witnessed the comedy of the head ref grabbing a fire extinguisher on Einstein and were glad to hear someone else saw it.


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