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Walter Deitzler 03-05-2012 19:39

Re: Best defensive robots throughout FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin_Morris (Post 1166663)
If you'd like to see the robot from that year...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDUl0pkjkjc

Fast forward to 18:30 to see it in action, we were team 35 back then.

The point of the design was to keep other robots from scoring by spinning the goal. It worked fairly well. I have a better video of it somewhere with "God Bless Texas" playing in the background ;)... I'll keep looking for it.

As for that video itself, it seems to be the property of someone on HOT. It's long but pretty entertaining.

As for this year... hands down my vote goes to 16 for reasons already explained in earlier posts. They were incredible.

Just curious (sorry to derail the thread) but why did the numbers change?

Steven Donow 03-05-2012 19:40

Re: Best defensive robots throughout FIRST
 
1370 were one of the best solely defensive bots in the early season and in MAR. I was amazed that they were such a late pick at Rutgers. They showed that it is possible to play great defense with mecanum wheels.

Kevin_Morris 03-05-2012 20:02

Re: Best defensive robots throughout FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LedLover96 (Post 1166677)
Just curious (sorry to derail the thread) but why did the numbers change?

New numbers were assigned every year based on where the team sponsor's name fell alphabetically relative to the rest of the teams in FIRST. I believe E-Systems was our main sponsor then and there still wasn't a ton of teams in FIRST at the time, thus the low number.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it was the following year that they locked the numbers that were assigned to teams, again based on sponsor name.

I would find it hard to believe if there wasn't a thread you could find via search with more information about this topic.


On topic:
Another team we had the pleasure of competing with on Galileo was team 870. For raw, uncompromising, unapologetic defense, it didn't get much better than them in our division. Too bad they were never picked for elims, they typically put on quite a show.

Akash Rastogi 03-05-2012 20:19

Re: Best defensive robots throughout FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin_Morris (Post 1166663)
If you'd like to see the robot from that year...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDUl0pkjkjc

Fast forward to 18:30 to see it in action, we were team 35 back then.

The point of the design was to keep other robots from scoring by spinning the goal. It worked fairly well. I have a better video of it somewhere with "God Bless Texas" playing in the background ;)... I'll keep looking for it.

As for that video itself, it seems to be the property of someone on HOT. It's long but pretty entertaining.

As for this year... hands down my vote goes to 16 for reasons already explained in earlier posts. They were incredible.


BJC 03-05-2012 20:40

Re: Best defensive robots throughout FIRST
 
How about 494 from 2003 - 2004? Their driver is now a mentor for our team and apparently he was one of the most feared defenders of his time playing absolutely brute defense. He got to Einstein both years and won in 2004 so he must have been pretty good. Can anyone from back then confirm this?

LafondaOnFire 03-05-2012 20:54

Re: Best defensive robots throughout FIRST
 
1241 played some amazing defense for Semi 2 1 at GTR West. They managed to fend off a triple balance and push 2056 away from the fender on numerous occasions. I've been looking for a full video of this everywhere, but the video on YouTube cuts off rather early:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNL7IB2jJGM

Does anyone have a link to a video made by someone in the stands of this match, possibly? It was fantastic defense they played and I'd enjoy watching that match again.

Gregor 03-05-2012 20:59

Re: Best defensive robots throughout FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LafondaOnFire (Post 1166718)
1241 played some amazing defense for Semi 2 1 at GTR West. They managed to fend off a triple balance and push 2056 away from the fender on numerous occasions. I've been looking for a full video of this everywhere, but the video on YouTube cuts off rather early:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNL7IB2jJGM

Does anyone have a link to a video made by someone in the stands of this match, possibly? It was fantastic defense they played and I'd enjoy watching that match again.

http://youtu.be/fQzyydRiek4

Here you go. You can't see much of their amazing defence until you near the end of the video though :(

LafondaOnFire 03-05-2012 21:07

Re: Best defensive robots throughout FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor01 (Post 1166719)
http://youtu.be/fQzyydRiek4

Here you go. You can't see much of their amazing defence until you near the end of the video though :(

Thanks so much! I've been searching for quite some time unable to find that match. Even though 1241 wasn't within sight for most of that match, I still enjoyed your robot scoring - it was very impressive to see your robot score as well as it did!

I remember wondering to myself if 1241 incurred a penalty as to whether they made contact with the blue bridge or not, and their robot compressed a basketball between them and the bridge really well. Do you recall if they did indeed incur a penalty? Nonetheless, I believe the blue alliance incurred a foul for pinning 1241.

Basel A 04-05-2012 00:18

Re: Best defensive robots throughout FIRST
 
For a team that didn't score a single ball or tube point over the past two seasons, 2586 has played some MAD Defence. They were a huge factor for their alliance that upset 217/33 at Troy in 2011 (no offence to 1718/3539, who were awesome). This year, they again made it to MSC based almost entirely on defence, though didn't have as much elimination success.

Here's one of the Troy matches, but you can see the rest on the same channel: http://youtu.be/gaAxiAO-Nag

4057programmer 04-05-2012 01:39

Re: Best defensive robots throughout FIRST
 
I know that not many people look at the rookie teams because they are new to FIRST, but I have to give a shout out to little team 4057 that came from nowhere with no shooter and a robot that cost about 300 bucks to make it to worlds and be able to play defense against some of the best robots in the world. We are small but we feel mighty and proud of our little robot. With that I thank you for letting little rookie team have its say and will let you get back to your discussion. :]

Clayton Yocom 04-05-2012 08:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1065995)
45 in 1999

This. So much this. I'll try to find a video of it.

Edit: FOUND IT!
Tapatalk makes inserting links dificult.

Brandon Holley 04-05-2012 10:01

Re: Best defensive robots throughout FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BJC (Post 1166712)
How about 494 from 2003 - 2004? Their driver is now a mentor for our team and apparently he was one of the most feared defenders of his time playing absolutely brute defense. He got to Einstein both years and won in 2004 so he must have been pretty good. Can anyone from back then confirm this?

Confirmed.

494 was known for having just absolute beast drive systems. I believe they were one of the first to implement a 6 motor skid steer system (before we were allowed 4 CIMs/Chips). I remember they used to bring a dyno for teams to run their robots on find out how they stacked up against the rest for pushing power.

-Brando


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