Re: Best Team Never To Win at Championships?
 

I don't ;) Always better to be with them than against them, that's for sure!

Re: Best Team Never To Win at Championships?
 

60 did very well this year. Arizona Regional Finalists and Las Vegas Regional Champs. But yes, still nothing like back then.
A couple of questions regarding 64/39, some resolved after research, some not (still listed for anyone curious):
-Why is 64 no longer a team? Did they change to 39? Is 64 one of the original teams/When did they begin?
-Did 39 not compete this year? TBA does not list events for them in 2011
-What was 64's team name? (RESOLVED: Doesn't say on TBA, but found an old CD post that said they were the Gila Monster's (awesome name))
-What 13 trophies did 64 take home in 2005? (RESOLVED: From this thread and further research):
Arizona Regional:
Autodesk Visualization Award
Imagery Award
Motorola Award
Website Award

Colorado Regional:
Autodesk Visualization Award
General Motors Industrial Design Award
Regional Finalist Award

Las Vegas Regional:
Imagery Award
Motorola Quality Award
Safety Award
Regional Winner Award

Galileo Division:
Division Champions

Einstein Field:
Championship Finalists
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Thank you,
-duke

Re: Best Team Never To Win at Championships?
 

Team 64: The Gila Monsters (If you see the Gila Dance, consider yourself lucky--it was discontinued after the 2005 season, along with the team.) Not one of the original teams.

After their 2005 Finalist appearance, team 64 split into teams 39 (39th Aero Squadron) and 1013 (Phoenix) by schools. (I want to say there was another team as well, but don't remember who.)

39 stopped competing as of the 2011 season; I'm not sure why.

There is a new Gila Monster team, though--the original sponsor relocated and started a rookie team, with no veterans on the team. I don't remember the number (and I don't know the relocation timing). They're sponsored by Team 64.

Re: Best Team Never To Win at Championships?
 

39 Stopped competing mostly due to financial issues. They now compete in FTC as 4314 and are the AZ 2011 champions. They helped us team 842 a lot this year as well, building our minibot and helping us out with basically every other part of our robot.

Re: Best Team Never To Win at Championships?
 

1114 matched that 13 trophy record in 2010, but no one's bested it to date.

Re: Best Team Never To Win at Championships?
 

I would assume the only way to get to the 13 trophy mark is doing successfully well at CMP OR do more than 3 regionals.
IIRC, team 555? did 4 regionals in 2008 or 2009?
Sorry, I have to check.

Re: Best Team Never To Win at Championships?
 

I remember them vividly, losing to 60 in 2000, 2011 in a regional finals, and team 64 in 2005 at a regional final.
But, we did win with 60 in 2001 and 2002. :)

Re: Best Team Never To Win at Championships?
 

2008. New Jersey, Connecticut, Bayou, and New York City before heading to Archimedes.

Re: Best Team Never To Win at Championships?
 

Yep, 555 did 4 regionals in one year (I'd have to check the year). But nowhere near 13 trophies.

Re: Best Team Never To Win at Championships?
 

The year was 2008, and if I remember correctly, they made it to the Eliminations in all 4 Regional Events but only won one event, NYC. In Archimedes they were the #6 Draft pick.

Re: Best Team Never To Win at Championships?
 

So I got bored and decided to pull up some stats. Thanks to Trevor Kearse from 2056 for helping me out with this.

Top 12 teams with the most regional wins, without a World Championship
T-1. 233 - 11
T-1. 2056 - 11
3. 175 - 10
4. 16 - 9
T-5. 47 - 8
T-5. 60 - 8
T-7. 33 - 7
T-7. 69 - 7
T-7. 121 - 7
T-7. 343 - 7
T-7. 359 - 7
T-7. 395 - 7

Top 9 teams with the most division wins, without a World Championship
1. 233 - 4
T-2. 60 - 3
T-2. 175 - 3
T-2. 968 - 3
T-3. 33 - 2
T-3. 121 - 2 (World Finalists in 1998, prior to divisions, counted as a division win for these purposes)
T-3. 340 - 2
T-3. 1126 - 2
T-3. 1218 - 2

Top 10 teams with the most regional + division wins, without a World Championship
1. 233 - 15 (11+4)
2. 175 - 13 (10+3)
3. 2056 - 12 (11+1)
4. 60 - 11 (8+3)
5. 16 - 10 (9+1)
T-6. 33 - 9 (7+2)
T-6. 121 - 9 (7+2)
T-6. 47 - 9 (8+1) (World Finalists in 1997, prior to divisions, counted as a division win for these purposes)
9. 343 - 8 (7+1)
10. 968 - 7 (4+3)

Re: Best Team Never To Win at Championships?
 

Oh man, how did I forget 175? I knew there was another incredibly successful team that wasn't really being discussed, but couldn't think of them. Buzz definitely deserves credit.

If you include 51 along with 47, it becomes even more impressive. Though divisions vs. regionals creates a new wrinkle.

Re: Best Team Never To Win at Championships?
 

However, 51 has won a Championship in 2003.

Re: Best Team Never To Win at Championships?
 

65 won a Championship in 2003. I'm drawing a distinction between 65 and 51, the same way I'm drawing a distinction between 47 and 51. Since 51 has not won a Championship, 47/51 can still be considered, IMO.

Re: Best Team Never To Win at Championships?
 

69 is an interesting case. Though I wouldn't put them ahead of 233, 2056 etc...It's easy to forget how good they have been simply because they often opt not to go to championships. They are one of if not the best team from Massachusetts (maybe New England for that matter). They lost a significant amount of funding when Gillette was making budget cuts, but despite this misfortune (I believe it was in 2009), the quality of their robots has not suffered. I still think that had one of the top 5 robots in the country in 2007 (2 12" ramps, an effective gripper claw, consistent autonomous scoring). It's hard to consider them the best team never to win at championships since they rarely attend, but they may be the most underrated team in FIRST.