Smallest public school to have a team
 

Hi all,

We were having a discussion at robots tonight. What is the smallest public school you know of that hosts an FRC team?

Ours has an enrollment of 375 and we were wondering if there were any smaller.

Thanks

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Dollar Bay High School has about 80 students. 10 are on the robotics team

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I think that guy wins... The Math and Science Academy in Minnesota has 315 students total in grades 6-12, with just over a hundred in 9-12. We usually get up to 20 signed up (a good percentage, to start), but we certainly have issues with continued commitment from enough people to really get the job done.

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We have 2k+ students, and we can get only 20 to give a solid commitment :(

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our school has 1200 students but the team is only 15

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I hate to rain on your parade, but please leave the thread to it's original topic. If you like you may start a new thread; perhaps: "which school has the lowest participation per capita".

Thanks,

- Alex

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My team is from the smallest public high school in Massachusetts. The first year our team was around the school graduated a class of 57 students.

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The size of the graduating class may be a better metric. The Math and Science Academy graduated 31 this year (the largest class ever).

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Wow, our team pulls from 2 schools with over 4500 kids. we struggle to get 20-25 to show up consistently. Over the summer, that number goes down to 4-6

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We're a private school, so it doesn't quite apply to the topic here... but they graduate less than 100 each year (I'm afraid I don't know the exact number). We still have managed to maintain 20-25 active students on the team every year - we even have 18 of them (9 of which are new members!) showing up for our summer session in a few weeks!

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I disagree.
In fact, starting a new thread about an extremely similar topic would be bogging up the forum with superfluous threads. I think that if the OP strongly dislikes that kind of discussion, he will voice it here. But as far as talking about an extremely similar subject, it might as well be done here, because really, theres a 90% chance that the lowest number has already been posted, and thus, the original intent of of this thread has already been taken care of.

P.S.: To the OP: There was a huge "demographics" forum a while back located here.

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NCS graduates about 60 kids a year, though this year's senior class was huge at about 90 students, and the 9th and 8th grades have around 40. We generally get around 25 kids on the team, 15 or so who are super-duper committed.

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My teams school is among the smallest (around 500 students max, and graduating class is 80-100 (i think we had 76 this year but that's about as low as it gets). This was our first year and we had about 20-27 kids on the FIRST team from all different grade levels. during the build season we often felt we were at a disadvantage because teams in larger schools/cities had access to designated machine shops and practice areas, while we created a makeshift workshop in our head mentors classroom, and tested in our school library. we have great support from our school principle, although the lack of a metal shop is not something we can fix at the moment. I'm just curious if other teams from small schools have the same problems as us?

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My school has slightly less students than yours (400 to max 450) with 26 on the team. Because of this we are actually at an advantage. Because there are less students in a school designed to hold approximately only 1500 students, the robotics team actually gets more space and room. We currently have 3.5 rooms (machine room, "build room", cad/business/graphics/website room, storage room is the .5) and a practice area that isn't permanent but we can use for a few weeks when needed. We also have good support from our principal and certain staff members. So, in our case we aren't really having similar problems, and I'm sure others would tell you different, but I figured I'd tell my teams story anyway.

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our team draws from two high schools (in the same town) that each probably have about 1500 students, and we had a pretty large team this year (for us) of 34 students. During the summer that more than halves, and not all of our members could be classified as "actively involved."

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Dom technically we don't apply to this discussion, as we are a private school. Just saying. We still are small though.

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We draw students from two schools each with around 80 kids in high school. we usually have about 25 students in robotics with around 10 doing most of the work.

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We don't have a dedicated machine shop, either, but that just means we have to budget in cleanup time (about an hour every day we meet) and time to pull stuff from our storage area (time varies, usually 10-20 minutes at the beginning, plus frequent trips to/from). It's not an enormous disadvantage.

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I believe we fit in this pool of smallest public school to have a team.
In Hawaii, we rank almost at the top for smallest public school, especially on Oahu, the island where most schools are.

We are definitely one of the farther schools to get to in a rural part of the island.

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Well, we've informally claimed the "smallest team from the smallest school" title, but now we see we might not be... we have just over 100 kids in our 4 year HS, and get 5ish committed roboteers. I'm not sure what we'd do with another 15 kids - maybe better community outreach:o))

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That's about how we started - similar size, no machine shop or practice area. We ended up working out of a parent's garage and basement that year.

Since your school doesn't have what you feel you need to help grow your team to the next level, I suggest you look out in your community. We managed to form a partnership with a local engineering co-op that had a full machine shop for our second and third years. The owner of the building rented us space for the build season (and a big closet to store all our stuff during the off season) real cheap, and we had full run of the machine shop in the evenings/weekends.

That was such a productive relationship, the school decided to get a 3 year lease on a space in the building for us, and completely redid it to meet our specs for what the team needed. We've managed over the years to accumulate a fairly impressive set of machines and tools, mostly by looking out for great deals in the area, local auctions, and craislist.

I know it can look bleak when you see what 10+ year old teams have available and compare it to what you have just starting out. But keep your eyes on the end goal, set up a list of things you want, and be aggressive about getting what the team needs!

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We may not be the smallest, but Skunkworks Robotics does pull from a relatively small school. With a student population of 400 (100 students per grade level), Aviation High School is a very small public High School. That being said, we are fortunate enough to maintain a team of around 40 students a year, with around 10-15 solid mentors and a dedicated parent core.

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I was a teacher on team 1310, the Ravens, from Runnymede Collegiate Institute in 2010. The school is a small school in the Toronto District School Board located at Jane and Dundas.

It has often garnered a checkered reputation as it is located on Jane St, which is home to one of Toronto's most notorious neighbourhoods, Jane and Finch. However, most people don't realize that Jane St is rather long, and the school itself is a 20 minute car ride away from Jane and Finch. Furthermore, the school is actually beside Bloor West Village, which ironically, is one of the nicest areas in Toronto.

The school has under 500 students, but had over 70 paying student members on the robotics team. An unbelievable participation rate.

They consistently bring out one of the largest and loudest student contingents at our Canadian Regionals.

On top of that they build pretty good robots too! They are perennial alliance captain/1st pick regional finalists, which in a region with 1114, 2056, 188, 1503, etc... is a pretty braggable accomplishment.

I've had a chance to see a lot of teams in FIRST, and hands-down 1310 produces some of the most intense and dedicated students (and teachers/mentors!) in FIRST I've ever had the pleasure of meeting. They do so much, with relatively little, never complain, and simply squeeze the most from everything they produce with little more than a healthy dose of willpower and determination.

Robotics is a complete culture there, it defines who people are beyond simply building robots. There is no doubt the fact that it is a small school had lots to do with this. It amplified how much of an effect a small group of students and teachers back in 2004 were able to exert on the entire school community. I think the students there feel more empowered there than a school of 1500+.

Along with team 188, they are one of FIRST Robotics Canada's key support teams for the Toronto District School Board, with 188 supporting the East side of the city, and 1310 providing support on the West.

Unfortunately, the team doesn't travel beyond their local regionals (yet?), but if you ever have a chance to meet them, be sure to drop by and say hello

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I think my school might be on this list. We are a public charter school with 65 students grades 6-12. 50 of them are 9-12. Our rookie team this year had 9 students who saw it through to the Championship.

We started with 18 but half of them lost interest prior to our regional competition. They sure missed a great ride!