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nafziger 28-07-2011 22:47

Hello everybody
 
Hello there people. I'm extremely cheerful being part of this great forum.

All the best !

lemiant 28-07-2011 23:01

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nafziger (Post 1070979)
Hello there people. I'm extremely cheerful being part of this great forum.

All the best !

Are you a real person?

Andrew Schreiber 28-07-2011 23:13

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lemiant (Post 1070980)
Are you a real person?

Are you?

lemiant 28-07-2011 23:26

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1070981)
Are you?

No, but I am an exceptionally good AI, does that count?

Andrew Schreiber 28-07-2011 23:29

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lemiant (Post 1070983)
No, but I am an exceptionally good AI, does that count?

Oh, is that what Canadians are called these days ;)

Garrett.d.w 28-07-2011 23:30

Re: Hello everybody
 
maybe, maybe not.

msimon785 29-07-2011 01:21

Re: Hello everybody
 
I have to say, the nonexistent association with any team, the ambiguity of the post and the grammar only a foreigner from a non-english speaking country could speak all lead me to believe that this gentleman may not have anything to do with FIRST.
That being said, if you are real, Welcome!

Andrew Lawrence 29-07-2011 01:23

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by msimon785 (Post 1071007)
That being said, if you are real, Welcome!

And if you're not, the STILL WELCOME!

Basel A 29-07-2011 01:24

Re: Hello everybody
 
Pretty sure he (it?) is real. I don't think bots can be cheerful.

Duke461 29-07-2011 01:53

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Basel A (Post 1071009)
Pretty sure he (it?) is real. I don't think bots can be cheerful.

I don't know......

I just had this four-line conversation with it:
Me:Are you cheerful?
Cleverbot: No.. Are you?
Me:Can you be cheerful?
Cleverbot: Yes.

PayneTrain 29-07-2011 17:53

Re: Hello everybody
 
S/he cared to fill out the location of residence as a real place...

Karibou 29-07-2011 18:13

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1071089)
S/he cared to fill out the location of residence as a real place...

And a Google search of the text reveals that it's not a spambot (the only other hit for the text is on a site that just references the post made here on CD).


Edit to avoid double-posting:
RE: Mark's find...my mind is exploding. Are bots really getting that smart, rotating phrases (and punctuation marks!) between posts to evade death by simple Google-search?

Mark McLeod 29-07-2011 18:41

Re: Hello everybody
 
Found this match from another forum (chef.com in Taiwan) posted today. Odd post in an all Chinese language forum...
Quote:

Hello there everybody. I'm extremely cheerful being a part of this wonderful community.

Kind regards .

PayneTrain 29-07-2011 20:06

Re: Hello everybody
 
This thread is quickly turning into how programmers are tearing our world apart, destroying internet havens close to us.

(something to remember during build season for the typical hardware/software skirmish that develops)

Andrew Schreiber 29-07-2011 20:15

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1071116)
This thread is quickly turning into how programmers are tearing our world apart, destroying internet havens close to us.

(something to remember during build season for the typical hardware/software skirmish that develops)

What? Maybe I'm just tired but I don't know where you got that.

PayneTrain 29-07-2011 20:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1071117)
What? Maybe I'm just tired but I don't know where you got that.

I got it from here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karibou (Post 1071094)
RE: Mark's find...my mind is exploding. Are bots really getting that smart, rotating phrases (and punctuation marks!) between posts to evade death by simple Google-search?

It was loosely based, and I'm usually too lazy to direct quote.

MrForbes 29-07-2011 21:43

Re: Hello everybody
 
How many Alan Turings does it take to spot a spambot?

RoboDesigners 29-07-2011 22:17

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by squirrel (Post 1071129)
How many Alan Turings does it take to spot a spambot?

Too many... :)

I think it would be interesting to see how this spambot continues its posts... Will it always be benign, just filling server space, or will it turn evil and start advertising?

windtakers 29-07-2011 22:25

Re: Hello everybody
 
why would anyone make a bot on this site it seems pointless

Andrew Schreiber 29-07-2011 22:28

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by windtakers (Post 1071132)
why would anyone make a bot on this site it seems pointless

Sadly this bot uses better punctuation and capitalization than many on this site.

DonRotolo 29-07-2011 22:48

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by squirrel (Post 1071129)
How many Alan Turings does it take to spot a spambot?

All of them :p

It may be a human masquerading as a bot. Perhaps the purpose is to find easily-posted-to fora, as targets for some future spam?

Molten 30-07-2011 00:31

Re: Hello everybody
 
I've actually found it interesting to read the spam posted on this site as it evolves. There have been multiple times a bot has made me think about the thread in a way I hadn't before. Once I saw a bot make a reference to recording music in a thread about winning a record. It was completely unrelated, but it actually made sense in an analogy sort of way. Perhaps in the future we should read posts made by bots and think about what they say before immediately reporting it. Yes, we should report it too. But in the meantime it can make us think.

Jason

Joe G. 30-07-2011 00:40

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Molten (Post 1071143)
I've actually found it interesting to read the spam posted on this site as it evolves. There have been multiple times a bot has made me think about the thread in a way I hadn't before. Once I saw a bot make a reference to recording music in a thread about winning a record. It was completely unrelated, but it actually made sense in an analogy sort of way. Perhaps in the future we should read posts made by bots and think about what they say before immediately reporting it. Yes, we should report it too. But in the meantime it can make us think.

Jason

My favorite one was a spambot that copied an intelligently worded, deeply technical question posted years ago. Despite the links in its signature, I was quite impressed with the spambot's knowledge of the IFI control system. It was even in the right forum!

Some related spambot humor

Duke461 30-07-2011 03:55

Re: Hello everybody
 
Its definitely a bot. found the exact same wording and username:
http://greenstems.org/2011/07/hello-everybody/

By the way, has anyone reported this yet?

Akash Rastogi 30-07-2011 04:34

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Molten (Post 1071143)
I've actually found it interesting to read the spam posted on this site as it evolves. There have been multiple times a bot has made me think about the thread in a way I hadn't before. Once I saw a bot make a reference to recording music in a thread about winning a record. It was completely unrelated, but it actually made sense in an analogy sort of way. Perhaps in the future we should read posts made by bots and think about what they say before immediately reporting it. Yes, we should report it too. But in the meantime it can make us think.

Jason

They've become self-aware.

Darn you Skynet...

Molten 30-07-2011 04:35

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke461 (Post 1071162)
Its definitely a bot. found the exact same wording and username:
http://greenstems.org/2011/07/hello-everybody/

By the way, has anyone reported this yet?

At this point, is it spam or a conversation starter? Is it possible to be both? If it is both, is it really proper to delete the spam? Just alot of questions involved with this sort of situation. I'll be interested to see how this situation is dealt with.

Jason

Duke461 30-07-2011 04:54

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1071169)
They've become self-aware.

Darn you Skynet...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molten (Post 1071170)
At this point, is it spam or a conversation starter? Is it possible to be both? If it is both, is it really proper to delete the spam? Just alot of questions involved with this sort of situation. I'll be interested to see how this situation is dealt with.

Jason

And now they're questioning their own messages! :O

Mark McLeod 30-07-2011 08:17

Re: Hello everybody
 



p.s.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke461 (Post 1071162)
Its definitely a bot. found the exact same wording and username:
http://greenstems.org/2011/07/hello-everybody/

Circular logic. Your link is actually this OP post, not a different spambot post. Kara earlier dismissed the post you found. Look at it more closely...

Quote:

By the way, has anyone reported this yet?
It's now responsible for a respectable thread.

Andrew Lawrence 30-07-2011 10:35

Re: Hello everybody
 
To the people who are saying report this, it's technically not doing anything bad. It posted one harmless, and somewhat nice post, and since then we've been talking for 2 whole pages over one comment. Unless it posts again (which I want it too), and that post is obviously spam, then we should let it be.

Madison 30-07-2011 12:14

Re: Hello everybody
 
The site has measures in place to question/verify whether an account is spam or real. By ignoring this message, it undermines some of those measures and could lead to a flood of spam later.

The account has been banned. Y'all might enjoy spending your free time deleting spam, but I have other hobbies :p

RoboDesigners 30-07-2011 12:20

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Madison (Post 1071182)
The account has been banned. Y'all might enjoy spending your free time deleting spam, but I have other hobbies :p

Doesn't a banned account's status/user title change to "banned?" If so, it doesn't look like the bot's account is really banned.

XaulZan11 30-07-2011 12:21

Re: Hello everybody
 
You know it's the offseason when a thread like this is one of the most popular ones on CD...

Madison 30-07-2011 12:23

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RoboDesigners (Post 1071183)
Doesn't a banned account's status/user title change to "banned?" If so, it doesn't look like the bot's account is really banned.

The mechanism that moderators use to ban accounts is different from the default provided in vBulletin. Their title does not change.

Marc P. 30-07-2011 12:28

Re: Hello everybody
 
I've seen this sort of spam here before. It starts with an innocent enough post. A few weeks go by, the post falls off the most recent posts list, gets buried in the forum somewhere. Whoever/whatever created the account logs back in and puts their spam links/whatever in their signature. Changing a signature doesn't bump a post back up, so their spam ends up buried deep in a pile of posts where unsuspecting people will find it when looking through old posts for specific information. Spam like that is harder to find because not many people look through older posts, and would be less likely to report it/more likely to click the links, thinking they were safe if they've been there for that long.

Duke461 30-07-2011 14:49

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1071175)



p.s.

Circular logic. Your link is actually to this OP post, not a different spambot post. Kara referred to the post you found earlier. Look at it more closely...

It's now responsible for a respectable thread.

But the fact that "it" posted the exact same thing on multiple threads is good evidence for a strange person, or a bot.

P.S. i wonder what happens if you PM it......

Andrew Lawrence 30-07-2011 15:01

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke461 (Post 1071193)
P.S. i wonder what happens if you PM it......

Let's find out! ;)

Mark McLeod 30-07-2011 15:17

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke461 (Post 1071193)
But the fact that "it" posted the exact same thing on multiple threads is good evidence for a strange person, or a bot.

Do you understand that the spambot did not make that post you linked to, therefore it cannot be used as evidence one way or another?

Techhexium 30-07-2011 15:58

Re: Hello everybody
 
You're right Mark. This doesn't seem obvious at first, but when you click on the author's link in that website, you get this:

Quote:

Posted in External Content, Robotics | Leave a comment | Retrieved from Chief Delphi. You might want to view the original article for more information, to leave a comment, or to contact the author.
Therefore, the username only posted in CD, the STEMroots website just archived it for some reason, it even provided a link to this topic.

Duke461 30-07-2011 16:58

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Techhexium (Post 1071196)
You're right Mark. This doesn't seem obvious at first, but when you click on the author's link in that website, you get this:



Therefore, the username only posted in CD, the STEMroots website just archived it for some reason, it even provided a link to this topic.

ohhhhhh. my bad :o
obviously i did not read the website page well enough lol

Molten 30-07-2011 22:13

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Madison (Post 1071182)
The account has been banned. Y'all might enjoy spending your free time deleting spam, but I have other hobbies :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg7Sj...el_video_title

It was a good bot, a kind bot. All it did was say hello, and it got banned from this forum. I can't say I have many memories of it, but it certainly made us think about bots in different ways. Thanks for that.

Bye nafziger,
Jason

Duke461 30-07-2011 23:30

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Molten (Post 1071224)

No.

Karibou 30-07-2011 23:55

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1071136)
All of them :p

It may be a human masquerading as a bot. Perhaps the purpose is to find easily-posted-to fora, as targets for some future spam?

I would believe that theory, if there wasn't a giant space before the "!" at the end (and the period in the post that Mark found). I'm sure that the kind of "bot" you described exists.

I remember a bit of spam a few years ago that was actually related to building robots. I can't remember the topic, but I do remember that it was very convincing, because I didn't do a Google search and responded to it...

PAR_WIG1350 03-08-2011 17:10

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1071116)
This thread is quickly turning into how programmers are tearing our world apart, destroying internet havens close to us.

(something to remember during build season for the typical hardware/software skirmish that develops)

Not all programmers, only the programmers who have no sense of decency.

plnyyanks 04-08-2011 10:50

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PAR_WIG1350 (Post 1071799)
Not all programmers, only the programmers who have no sense of decency.

and keep in mind that some programmers do have (at least a little) sense of decency and are not trying to destroy the world in some way

Karibou 04-08-2011 20:01

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by plnyyanks (Post 1071888)
and keep in mind that some programmers do have (at least a little) sense of decency and are not trying to destroy the world in some way

One of our programmers managed to fry 4 victors and set a (old) bot on fire twice. When they aren't dealing directly with a computer screen of code, some of them can be pretty malicious...

Andrew Schreiber 05-08-2011 22:19

Re: Hello everybody
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by plnyyanks (Post 1071888)
and keep in mind that some programmers do have (at least a little) sense of decency and are not trying to destroy the world in some way

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karibou (Post 1071933)
One of our programmers managed to fry 4 victors and set a (old) bot on fire twice. When they aren't dealing directly with a computer screen of code, some of them can be pretty malicious...

So nice to see people saying such nice things about me. :)


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