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AdamHeard 07-08-2011 19:57

pic: FRC973 offseason teaser
 

Billfred 07-08-2011 20:03

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Well, the above looks (operative word: looks) like a standard cylinder used on an AM Shifter (and many other designs for its widespread availability).

I can only imagine this will have something to do with a minibot launcher or some other one-shot device--I can't see the reduced stroke being used to shift a drive gearbox unless they redid the entire thing to accommodate that (and I think that if anyone can play the if-it-ain't-broke card...)

Chris is me 07-08-2011 20:10

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I can see it being used to reduce the amount of air a shifting transmission uses. The project could easily be a gearbox that makes it work.

Hawiian Cadder 07-08-2011 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1072284)
I can see it being used to reduce the amount of air a shifting transmission uses. The project could easily be a gearbox that makes it work.


the smaller bore would mean less force, and for the weight and complexity of solenoids and all the tubing, they might as well use a servo, or a pair of servos.

my bet is on mini-bot deployment.

Chris is me 07-08-2011 20:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawiian Cadder (Post 1072286)
the smaller bore would mean less force, and for the weight and complexity of solenoids and all the tubing, they might as well use a servo, or a pair of servos.

The only reason I think this could be a shifting piston is because many teams don't shift at 60 PSI now just fine. So this smaller system at 60 could equal other systems at 40.

Ankit S. 07-08-2011 20:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1072282)
Something using the smaller of these two cylinders will be competing at 2-3 offseason events this fall!

Are you coming to CalGames?

JB987 07-08-2011 20:31

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Many teams use short stroke cylinders for shifting their transmissions. 987 uses a half inch stroke for our ball shifter...

EagleEngineer 07-08-2011 21:11

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I think the small cylinder is going to be used for shifting the custom 2 speed gearbox on your six wheel drive train.

Andrew Schreiber 07-08-2011 21:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleEngineer (Post 1072298)
I think the small cylinder is going to be used for shifting the custom 2 speed gearbox on your six wheel drive train.

I think whatever this project is that it has a few less wheels.

O'Sancheski 07-08-2011 21:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawiian Cadder (Post 1072286)
my bet is on mini-bot deployment.

They already have a ramp so I don't know what else they could do/

rcmolloy 07-08-2011 21:30

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Let's just say California will be rocked in the off-season with what 973 has in store for it. :p

AdamHeard 07-08-2011 23:04

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Both of these cylinders are .5" stroke, and both are readily available. 3/4" Bore is somewhat "standard" in FRC from the years it was one of the few allowed sizes, but industry doesn't respect these limitations. Both can be bought directly from bimba or mcmaster for the same price more or less, and ship fast.

The lower one is a 5/16" Bore, and has substantially less shifting force.

We've also been running 9/16" bore shifters the last two seasons with great success.

Won't say what they're for just yet, but some good comments in the thread so far!

Taylor 08-08-2011 12:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1072299)
I think whatever this project is that it has a few less wheels.

Given the following, I'd say the opposite.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcmolloy (Post 1072302)
Let's just say California will be rocked in the off-season with what 973 has in store for it. :p

I think it's a drivebase overhaul - these puppies will be used to raise/lower wheels.

Jeffy 08-08-2011 13:00

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These may also offer an appropriate amount of clamping force for a "gas shock" style roller claw. (ie. 1902 in '08)

AdamHeard 08-08-2011 13:19

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Keep in mind that a 5/16" bore is only pushing with 4.5 lbs.


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