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jacob9706 18-08-2011 01:38
KINECT WORKING IN LABVIEW!!!
 
I have been tinkering around with my Kinect as a joke to present to my team, but after having AMAZING success in object tracking and depth/ distance measurement i am now going to push my team towards finding a way of integrating one onto next years robot. I just hope it is deemed legal for competition use.

I am also wondering how you would get a USB input through the C-Rio. That is the part i have not looked into.:yikes:

If i get enough requests i will create a video showing how accurate it is.

lemiant 18-08-2011 01:46
Re: KINECT WORKING IN LABVIEW!!!
 
Hate to rain on your parade, but I seem to remember that lasers are illegal on FRC robots :confused: (I don't *think* that the fact they are invisible matters)

jacob9706 18-08-2011 02:05
Re: KINECT WORKING IN LABVIEW!!!
 
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Originally Posted by lemiant (Post 1073718)
Hate to rain on your parade, but I seem to remember that lasers are illegal on FRC robots :confused: (I don't *think* that the fact they are invisible matters)
it doesn't use "lasers"...its an " infrared light source" according to Microsoft. :P

Tristan Lall 18-08-2011 02:27
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Originally Posted by jacob9706 (Post 1073719)
it doesn't use "lasers"...its an " infrared light source" according to Microsoft. :P
Laser.

jacob9706 18-08-2011 02:33
Re: KINECT WORKING IN LABVIEW!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Tristan Lall (Post 1073720)
I know. That's why I used quotes. Im just so hopeful that it is deemed legal because there are so many possibilities when you use it.

Gdeaver 18-08-2011 07:52
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The CRIO most likely does not have the processing power even if FIRST made them legal. Some atom boards could be had that have the processing power and would meet the cost constraints.

biojae 18-08-2011 08:41
Re: KINECT WORKING IN LABVIEW!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacob9706 (Post 1073716)
I have been tinkering around with my Kinect as a joke to present to my team, but after having AMAZING success in object tracking and depth/ distance measurement i am now going to push my team towards finding a way of integrating one onto next years robot. I just hope it is deemed legal for competition use.

I am also wondering how you would get a USB input through the C-Rio. That is the part i have not looked into.:yikes:

If i get enough requests i will create a video showing how accurate it is.
For the 2011 game, it was explicitly stated to be illegal:
http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=16240

EricVanWyk 18-08-2011 10:57
Re: KINECT WORKING IN LABVIEW!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacob9706 (Post 1073716)
I have been tinkering around with my Kinect as a joke to present to my team, but after having AMAZING success in object tracking and depth/ distance measurement i am now going to push my team towards finding a way of integrating one onto next years robot. I just hope it is deemed legal for competition use.

I am also wondering how you would get a USB input through the C-Rio. That is the part i have not looked into.:yikes:

If i get enough requests i will create a video showing how accurate it is.
Very cool! Any chance you could share the code? :)

plnyyanks 18-08-2011 12:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricVanWyk (Post 1073747)
Very cool! Any chance you could share the code? :)
I second that. I'd be very interested to check out that code.

jacob9706 18-08-2011 13:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricVanWyk (Post 1073747)
Very cool! Any chance you could share the code? :)
I will strip out some of the unneeded stuff and post a YouTube video shooing what it can do with a link for chief Delphi users. Check back hear for code to unzip te project.

jacob9706 18-08-2011 14:22
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So i do not have a capture program on this laptop.... so i am just uploading the code. the file requires a password and it is VERY simple if you are involved in FIRST.

HINT: FIRST motto/ Value (GP)

http://www.2shared.com/file/pUNf4d89...abview_86.html

Tom Bottiglieri 19-08-2011 11:42
Re: KINECT WORKING IN LABVIEW!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacob9706 (Post 1073716)
I am also wondering how you would get a USB input through the C-Rio. That is the part i have not looked into.:yikes:
There is no USB port on the current version of the cRIO, and based on the pictures I have seen of the new smaller one, none on there either.

Unless an NI person chirps in with something I don't know, I see only one feasible way to get the data from your PrimeSense unit (Kinect/PSDK5.0/asus xtion) to the cRIO.

You can use a seperate computer and pipe the data back over an ip connection. You can either use a cheap, lightweight system (ARM/NAND based, like the Pandboard or Beagleboard) and pump back the raw data for processing on the cRio, or you can use a heavier machine like an x86 netbook, do some of the vision processing on board there, and then pump back higher level data, like object locations and such. Who knows, you may even be able to pull enough power out of the little machine to do some tracking right on there. (Granted, you wouldn't have access to NI's vision libraries)

I really do hope FRC deems these PrimeSense rangers to be legal. Sure, 99% of the teams won't use them but it's not like they raise any kind of safety issues.

jacob9706 19-08-2011 12:35
Re: KINECT WORKING IN LABVIEW!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 1073875)
There is no USB port on the current version of the cRIO, and based on the pictures I have seen of the new smaller one, none on there either.

Unless an NI person chirps in with something I don't know, I see only one feasible way to get the data from your PrimeSense unit (Kinect/PSDK5.0/asus xtion) to the cRIO.

You can use a seperate computer and pipe the data back over an ip connection. You can either use a cheap, lightweight system (ARM/NAND based, like the Pandboard or Beagleboard) and pump back the raw data for processing on the cRio, or you can use a heavier machine like an x86 netbook, do some of the vision processing on board there, and then pump back higher level data, like object locations and such. Who knows, you may even be able to pull enough power out of the little machine to do some tracking right on there. (Granted, you wouldn't have access to NI's vision libraries)

I really do hope FRC deems these PrimeSense rangers to be legal. Sure, 99% of the teams won't use them but it's not like they raise any kind of safety issues.
I am thinking the same way. The kinect isn't going to hurt anyone and if it can micorsoft is a monster for selling it to kids.

But with the USB input that is the only way I have found that we could do it. A separate laptop under te price limit may be a little bit of a challenge especially if they concider software part of the price.

Vikesrock 19-08-2011 15:05
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Originally Posted by jacob9706 (Post 1073880)
But with the USB input that is the only way I have found that we could do it. A separate laptop under te price limit may be a little bit of a challenge especially if they concider software part of the price.
Each of the following would be separate components subjected to their own $400 price limit but even if they were considered a single COTS item and had to fit under the $400 collectively they would.

Atom D525 Motherboard ~$85
125 watt automotive power supply ~$70
4GB DDR3 memory ~$26
8GB Solid State HD ~$40
Microsoft Kinect ~$150
Your favorite Linux Distro Free!

Total: ~$371

jacob9706 19-08-2011 16:02
Re: KINECT WORKING IN LABVIEW!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 1073889)
Each of the following would be separate components subjected to their own $400 price limit but even if they were considered a single COTS item and had to fit under the $400 collectively they would.

Atom D525 Motherboard ~$85
125 watt automotive power supply ~$70
4GB DDR3 memory ~$26
8GB Solid State HD ~$40
Microsoft Kinect ~$150
Your favorite Linux Distro Free!

Total: ~$371
Wow. Look at me totally forgetting about Linux! Good thinking.


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