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Akira691 24-08-2011 04:30

Looking for a good, cheap gyro
 
Hey, new to the forums so don't eat me :D

Just wondering where I could get a cheap, reliable gyro. It'll be used for keeping our 2011 robot on course and to more accurately move to its target(s).

I was looking online and found a bunch of breakout boards, but seeing as I'm the programmer and don't know if those are acceptable/usable on an FRC robot I'd like some help.

Any references and/or comments would be appreciated.

kramarczyk 24-08-2011 07:01

Re: Looking for a good, cheap gyro
 
Is there something inadequate with the one that came in the Kit of Parts?

Phalanx 24-08-2011 16:01

Re: Looking for a good, cheap gyro
 
As previously stated the one supplied in the KOP should be fine.

If not, you can get this one. It should be adequate.
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8372

DonRotolo 24-08-2011 18:17

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If you are near Houston... :p

Tommy F. 24-08-2011 18:32

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Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1074493)
If you are near Houston... :p

I have to say, that made my day.

plnyyanks 24-08-2011 20:04

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Originally Posted by 7h0m54 (Post 1074497)
I have to say, that made my day.

I have to say, my day has been made too. Although I would advise not mixing gyros with gyros (unless your local hobby shop has a good Greek snack bar, in which case, go for it!).

On a more serious note, I'll reiterate that the KOP Gyro should be sufficient for most uses. If not, others should be pretty easy to find. Heck, Amazon's got 'em. They seem to be readily available elsewhere too.

ratdude747 24-08-2011 21:17

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I have to say, my day has been made too. Although I would advise not mixing gyros with gyros (unless your local hobby shop has a good Greek snack bar, in which case, go for it!).

Also not to be confused with a BMX gyro. It is a device used on BMX bikes to allow bar spins without wrapping the rear brake cable. See the attached image.

drakesword 26-08-2011 00:35

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We found the kit of parts gyro unreliable in the event of an earthquake ...

On a more serious note we had a few issues with the KOP gyro mainly drift and other wierdness, dunno if it was stock code or what but on occasion our robot felt like it was spinning at 5 rads a second.

If you are looking at non-frc gyro then what about one used in R/C helicopters?

lemiant 26-08-2011 13:12

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Originally Posted by drakesword (Post 1074747)
on occasion our robot felt like it was spinning at 5 rads a second.

That kind of drift is not normal, either you gyro is defective or your code is (did you remember to calibrate it?). Our KOP gyro and stock code had less than 0.1deg/sec drift.

AdamHeard 26-08-2011 13:18

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Has anyone tried using a more sophisticated gyro with thermal compensation and filtering onboard, interfaced over the I2c port?

Joe Ross 26-08-2011 17:42

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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1074810)
Has anyone tried using a more sophisticated gyro with thermal compensation and filtering onboard, interfaced over the I2c port?

Unless the gyro has built in integration, it would take a lot of I2C traffic to sample it at a high enough rate, and you'd have to write your own routine for integration.

davidthefat 27-08-2011 01:56

Re: Looking for a good, cheap gyro
 
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Originally Posted by drakesword (Post 1074747)
We found the kit of parts gyro unreliable in the event of an earthquake ...

On a more serious note we had a few issues with the KOP gyro mainly drift and other wierdness, dunno if it was stock code or what but on occasion our robot felt like it was spinning at 5 rads a second.

If you are looking at non-frc gyro then what about one used in R/C helicopters?

Check if both of your speed controllers have the jumpers in the right configuration. One year, we had that problem, I thought it was just the chains or something. But it turns out one speed controller was configured to "brake" and the other to "coast".

jamie_1930 31-08-2011 01:11

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I found these real quick although the second one is an SMD
http://www.robotshop.com/pololu-dual...t-board-2.html
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9445
These were the cheapest I could find, but if you want to look at sensors these are the sites I usually use
http://www.robotshop.com/
http://www.sparkfun.com
http://www.makershed.com/
http://www.adafruit.com/

Hope that helps

SavtaKenneth 31-08-2011 01:48

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Originally Posted by Joe Ross (Post 1074861)
Unless the gyro has built in integration, it would take a lot of I2C traffic to sample it at a high enough rate, and you'd have to write your own routine for integration.

Integrating the gyro is very doable. We did it in 2010, I believe I still have the code (In Java) somewhere. However it was an analog sensor, I never got to work with an I2C one.

On the subject we also have a good experience with the KOP gyro.

Kevin Watson 01-09-2011 01:18

Re: Looking for a good, cheap gyro
 
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Originally Posted by Akira691 (Post 1074410)
Just wondering where I could get a cheap, reliable gyro. It'll be used for keeping our 2011 robot on course and to more accurately move to its target(s).

You have a mentor who works with me at SpaceX. Tell him what you need and I'll see if I can set you up.

-Kevin


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