2012 motors?
 

Does anyone have any idea of what motors we will be able to use next year? Because it would be nice to know what we should start to stalk up on gearbox wise.

Long story short, if we go to CIM and all BB i want to have a supply of BB gear boxes and CAD models ready.

Re: 2012 motors?
 

You can ask the GDC. But I doubt they'll tell you.

I would figure that one or more CIMs and one or more BB motors would be a safe bet... but so were the drill motors right up until 2004, before they disappeared entirely in 2005.

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What are your feelings about FP's? That is also a concern of mine. I think we will be allowed 2 or more because of the description of this because it can accept 2 FP's.

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I hope we get better motors this year. 4 cims, 4 FP, 4 window, 4 tiny motors (395's or something similar)

keep it simple.

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I am so with you man on that one.

Re: 2012 motors?
 

That is a product produced by an outside company (AndyMark) that sells products designed for FRC teams. It is not FIRST. 500 sized motors are extremely common, last year we had three, the FP, the 550, and the 540. We have also had others in the past such as different FP motors, the 555s, and 545s. Thus, it is extremely likely some form of 500 sized motor will be in the kit in the future.

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I hear a rumor they're gonna let teams use these:

http://www.jetcatusa.com/p200.html

:D

OK, an Aerospace Engineer can dream, right?

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I feel like if FIRST added in more motors, they would have to add in more transmissions for said motors, and then more mounting hardware for the motors/transmissions and a lot of other things for those motors that I haven't thought of. It seems like that would drive the price up for the KoP, wouldn't it?

Colonel Sandurz: Prepare ship for ludicrous speed!

:P

Re: 2012 motors?
 

Everyone,
You should know by reading past years posts, that FIRST is working hard with suppliers to come up with a KOP and will continue to work right up into November or December. There are a lot of factors as to what motors go into the kit. Every year they try and get you some additional power devices. I would bet the same is going on right now.
Please remember, it was not FIRST who chose a motor that had shorts. The choice was based on a existing tried and tested motor. Whatever motors show up, we all will be using the same ones.

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Use ALL THE MOTORS! Seriously though, I'd like to see at least 1 somewhat new motor in the KoP this year. That new motor always starts giving ideas on what applications it could be used for, which always starts a season off good.

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I would have a tenancy to agree but the window motors come with gearboxes, the FP gearboxes are only 12 dollars, and many small motors can be had with a gearbox for under 30 dollars and the CIMs are almost guaranteed to be in the KOP.

An example of a motor I think would work well for a mini motor would be something like this, with multiple ratios available.

http://www.fingertechrobotics.com/pr...od=ft-Sspark16

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AndyMark has CIM motors on sale. Wonder what that means?

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FIRST doesn't need to provide gearboxes for the motors in the kop.

Also, this has been bothering me all season with people complaining about the "banebots" motors, people need to realize these are actually incredibly standardized motors.

If you look at any 500 sized motor from any manufacturer, it's going to have a .125" shaft with m3 mounting holes on 25mm spacing... Gee goly, that sounds a lot like a "Fisher Price" motor.... hmmm it also sounds a lot like the motor out of my rc car, or the motor in some random 12V drill, or the motor in my mother's old battery powered hairdryer (awful invention, I know).

What I'm getting at is there are probably more gearboxes on the market for 500 sized motors than any other standard motor size in existence. Even if you limit yourself to just what AM sells, he has MULTIPLE options for mounting these "banebots" and "Fisher Price motors". If you are willing to do some tinkering, there are thousands upon thousands of COTS gearboxes for these motors in very cheap devices all over various markets.

Another great option is to copy team 330, those big honkin' plastic monstrosities of gearboxes in the KOP can mount any 500 sized motor, and some can even mount 700 sized motors. Don't want to special order pinions to interface a new motor to it? Go to a local hobby shop and they'll have a huge selection of 32 Pitch pinions made specifically for these motors.


I also wondered that. He did recently release a CIM based gearbox though, so unsure how valid that is.

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Heh, if they wanted to reduce the number of pinning/pushing matches, they could take us down to 2 CIMs max with plenty of 500-sized options available with other motors.

Let the magic smoke commence!

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If you have a lot of 500 sized motors left, whats to stop people from putting multiple sets in drive and getting ridiculously powerful drivetrains?

Even if teams did end up only going with 2 cims per drive, isn't that the new standard then? and pinning/pushing will still happen?